What temp eating quilt/bag for beginner 3 season east coast?

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What temp eating quilt/bag for beginner 3 season east coast?

Postby jackbyo » Sat 22 Jan, 2022 1:04 pm

Hi all

I’ve only done a few overnight trips on foot using borrowed gear and cheap/heavy stuff.

I’m about to buy an Enlightened Equipment Revelation quilt and retire my aldi bag that is too short for me. It will be a 3 season quilt, and I’ll look into a dedicated winter quilt another day.

I’m a bit stuck on temperature ratings. I understand that I can just look up the averages of temperatures im likely to encounter, but I thought I’d ask for some real world experience. I live outside of Sydney and will likely be hiking around the coast and Blue Mountains predominantly.

What temp ratings would you recommend? I was considering their -1 degree Celsius quilt, which they say is a “limit” rating. I suppose that puts comfort rating at about 5 degrees Celsius.

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Re: What temp rating quilt/bag for beginner 3 season east co

Postby Moondog55 » Sat 22 Jan, 2022 1:26 pm

Will you be doing any Outback winter touring or any snow camping?
Have you read up on layering quilts yet?
If you get a bigger quilt you can layer up inside it to get a lower rating but my own experience is that quilts are not as warm as a bag [ others do differ tho and I sleep cold] so I would personally pick a quilt one rating warmer.
If you pick one rated to 0C you would probably be OK at 5C.
Winter/snow can be tackled by layering a LW synthetic quilt over the tp of the down one and you get a boost of 10 to 15 degrees that way depending on how warm the added quilt is and how good your mattress system is, you will need a warm hat or balaclava so take that into consideration.
Anything below 10C and I'm in a sleeping bag so not a really experienced quilt user
Ve are too soon old und too late schmart
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Re: What temp eating quilt/bag for beginner 3 season east co

Postby wildwanderer » Sat 22 Jan, 2022 2:50 pm

If you are going to camp in the blue mountains over winter you will need a quilt with a comfort (not minimum) rating of 0c. (Or under if you're a cold sleeper)

I'm a very cold sleeper and use a -8c quilt at 0c temps.

You can boost a quilts warmth with a hooded down jacket.

Don't forget a mat with a r value of atleast 3.

Ideally you want a summer bag/quilt as well for mid October-mid April. Something in the 10c comfort range.
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Re: What temp eating quilt/bag for beginner 3 season east co

Postby Neo » Sat 22 Jan, 2022 3:18 pm

Hi In our current weather along the coast you can sleep comfortably without a bag or quilt! If it gets a bit cooler than 20 degrees overnight then a raincoat or puffy jacket and leg thermals are handy to have. Assuming you are sleeping on some kind of mat.

Rest of the year comfort 5 would likely be fine, in the Blueys comfort zero. Any time you can ad a UL puffy, beanie, socks etc. and a thin ccf foam mat to boost insulation from the ground.

The quilt you are looking at would be great for this modular approach.
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Re: What temp eating quilt/bag for beginner 3 season east co

Postby JohnnoMcJohnno » Sat 22 Jan, 2022 5:16 pm

Not sure if this helps, because we are all different, but for the Blue Mountains outside of Winter I have been comfortable using a sleeping bag with comfort rating of 4 degrees C and a limit of zero. If it is warmish it is draped over me like a quilt but other times it's fully zipped with the hood drawn tight. In Winter I use a sleeping bag with comfort of -1, limit of -6, but I have found it to be borderline.

Your proposed choice for 3 season use sounds fine, but I have no knowledge of that particular brand, and how true to rating it is.
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Re: What temp eating quilt/bag for beginner 3 season east co

Postby Walk_fat boy_walk » Sat 22 Jan, 2022 5:28 pm

-1 limit quilt is fine for BMs, except winter as others have stated.

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Re: What temp eating quilt/bag for beginner 3 season east co

Postby Al M » Sun 23 Jan, 2022 1:01 pm

Perhaps a 0 C rated comfort quilt if you are warm sleeper, a wider version especially if one is a side sleeper as the bum pokes out and gets drafts.

I picked up a used Sea to Summit 8 C comfort rated sleeping bag and it does well enough wearing extra layer fleece top and is very light weight at 400g. The sleeping bag concept is still a lot more effective at warmth efficiency per weight ratio with air voids reduced vs a quilt. I have a -2 C Undercling Mike quilt which is also very good.
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