Mont Helium 600 vs One Planet Bungle -10°c

[Iamspartacus]

Hi,

I want to buy my wife a sleeping bag for her birthday, and would be grateful for some advice pls.

She wants something for the 3 Capes in Tassie. Something nice and roomy. And then to be used as a bag for the cooler seasons in South East Queensland.

I thought about getting her a Feathered Friends Flicker (like I have) or maybe a Enlightened Equipment Convert (as they can be made a bit warmer), but would prefer something Australian made.

So... I'm trying to decide between the Mont Helium 600 women's and the One Planet Bungle short (-10°c version).

It seems both are tapered rectangular, use 800+ down and are rated at -10°c (or -4°c for cold sleepers).

The One Planet is quite a bit cheaper, although that's not a key factor for me (a good bag lasts for ever and is worth it).

I'd be grateful for any and all advice that helps me discriminate between the two. Particularly advice from someone with experience of both bags.

Also open to ideas about some other better options?

Thanks in advance.

Andy

[metastable]

No experience with it, but the Sea to Summit Flame Fm4 Wmn's Sleeping Bag (−10 °C) might be an option? Australian company I believe, lighter than the options you provided and I think in the same price range? https://www.snowys.com.au/flame-fm4-wmn ... g-bag-10-c

[Moondog55]

Just remember that none of the Australian bags are actually made here, most if not all come from China.

[Lamont]

OP at least fill and finish their bags here (last I checked). Neither of the other companies mentioned make anything at all in Oz I'm pretty sure. STS is not an Oz company.

[Moondog55]

Ms Mudd has an OP Cocoon if I remember correctly, which is a generously proportioned mummy bag. S2S is an Australian/International company and the headquarters are still in WA even if their main market focus is now the USA

[wildwanderer]

Mont helium series are nice bags. They have a full length zip and foot zip which is nice for the warmer nights.

I'd rate Mont bags above sea to summit bags. No experience with op ones

[Son of a Beach]

My wife and kids all have One Planet Bungles (not -10° though). They are all happy with them, having used them in the snow and ice on the overland track a while back.

I reckon that -10° might be overkill for the 3 capes and SE QLD. But would be well worthwhile if you think you might do anything more extreme than that in the future.

[sandym]

I have the One Planet Bushlite rated to -11C. So far, it is great. Water-resistant covering so does not get damp with dew or condensation and the down is treated with water repellant stuff. It is warm enough for me as a warm sleeper. The bushlite is a slim fitting bag, I prefer as it is lighter to carry. I would not pin my hopes on the -11 or -10 or whatever rating the bag is as these always prove very subjective.

I suspect I would find mine required extra clothing in anything approaching -10C and I sleep hot. I know they have new rating scales for these to try and filter out the subjectivity of the bag ratings but I think they are still mostly bogus in practice.

[Warin]

I know they have new rating scales for these to try and filter out the subjectivity of the bag ratings but I think they are still mostly bogus in practice.

'The new rating scales', if properly tested and then stated, are a guide as to which bags are warmer/colder than others. The tests also assume that the user is wearing thermal cloths.
The variation between the test results and an individual maybe explained as the variation between the 'average human' (whatever they consider that to be) and the individual at that time (fit/unfit, exhausted, just eaten/hungry, etc).

[Stew63]

I recently bought my +1 a Western Mountaineering Versalite sleeping bag. Rated to -12C. With 850+ goose down and only 850grams in weight.
Made in USA it just oozes quality and even has the name/signature of the individual that made the bag on a tag inside the bag.The US online store
we purchased it from has an arrangement with WM and have their bags filled with an extra 10% down than normal at no extra cost.
Was about AUD$750 delivered to my doorstep - admittedly took a while for delivery with the worldwide slowdown of mail/shipping due Covid.

[fastfreddy]

Have both a Mont Helium and a O/P Bungle in use within the family.
I consider the One Planet to be a superior bag for the following reasons:
1) The continuous baffles in the Mont allow far too much down movement during the night (restless sleeper). Nothing worse than being woken several times a night because the down has migrated to where it does no good.
2) The hood on the Helium is much less structured than that of the O/P.
3)The Helium lacks a neck Baffle (like the O/P Cocoon) which appears to be an odd oversight on a -10 bag.
4)The zipper anti snag treatment on the Mont does not measure up to that of the O/P Bungle.
Hope this helps.

[gbagua]

The US online store
we purchased it from has an arrangement with WM and have their bags filled with an extra 10% down than normal at no extra cost.

Which online store was that?

Thanks!

[Moondog55]

The US online store
we purchased it from has an arrangement with WM and have their bags filled with an extra 10% down than normal at no extra cost.

Which online store was that?

Thanks!

https://hermitshut.com/collections/west ... taineering