What are the chances that others will follow this lead?
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/ear ... /ye40a3wmc
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climberman wrote:Zero chances - Patagonia is a private firm owned by a legend.
Biggles wrote:climberman wrote:Zero chances - Patagonia is a private firm owned by a legend.
Really? Charity and philanthropy does exist, and has for decades, in all echelons of successful business, big and small. Have you checked out what Andrew Forrest does for charity?
Yvon Chouinard, long before Patagonia, was the founder of the Chouinard climbing equipment brand.
Biggles wrote:Patagonia...?
Goodness, one doesn't here much about that supplier nowadays, or the activities toward positive environmental contributions.
I visited Geelong last weekend, and the store there was closed (yet again!) — stocked etc., but still mysteriously closed. A win in that case for Kathmandu.
climberman wrote:Biggles wrote:Patagonia...?
Goodness, one doesn't here much about that supplier nowadays, or the activities toward positive environmental contributions.
I visited Geelong last weekend, and the store there was closed (yet again!) — stocked etc., but still mysteriously closed. A win in that case for Kathmandu.
Patagonia does a huge amount for positive environmental contributions.
Patagonia and Kathmandu must be near polar opposites in terms of enviro approach to business.
Dexter wrote:climberman wrote:Biggles wrote:Patagonia...?
Goodness, one doesn't here much about that supplier nowadays, or the activities toward positive environmental contributions.
I visited Geelong last weekend, and the store there was closed (yet again!) — stocked etc., but still mysteriously closed. A win in that case for Kathmandu.
Patagonia does a huge amount for positive environmental contributions.
Patagonia and Kathmandu must be near polar opposites in terms of enviro approach to business.
According to 'Shop Ethical' Kathmandu and Patagonia top the list...
https://guide.ethical.org.au/guide/brow ... /?type=715
Dexter wrote:climberman wrote:Biggles wrote:Patagonia...?
Goodness, one doesn't here much about that supplier nowadays, or the activities toward positive environmental contributions.
I visited Geelong last weekend, and the store there was closed (yet again!) — stocked etc., but still mysteriously closed. A win in that case for Kathmandu.
Patagonia does a huge amount for positive environmental contributions.
Patagonia and Kathmandu must be near polar opposites in terms of enviro approach to business.
According to 'Shop Ethical' Kathmandu and Patagonia top the list...
https://guide.ethical.org.au/guide/brow ... /?type=715
climberman wrote:I think Patagonia is vastly different in terms of activism and driving product /materials change.
In 2006 Kathmandu was fined $28,000 plus costs in the Auckland District Court for breaching New Zealand's Fair Trading Act by advertising goods as being "on sale" when they had been available at the discounted price for months prior to the sale and, in some cases, when they were also available at the same "sale" price afterwards.
Patagonia does a huge amount for positive environmental contributions.
Patagonia and Kathmandu must be near polar opposites in terms of enviro approach to business.
According to 'Shop Ethical' Kathmandu and Patagonia top the list...
https://guide.ethical.org.au/guide/brow ... /?type=715
Perhaps more on the 'ethical' than straight 'enviro' review/comparison.
I think Patagonia is vastly different in terms of activism and driving product /materials change.
Absolutely. And the fact that they offer free repairs to clothing and actively discourage the purchase of apparel (even their own) unless needed is vastly different from Kathmandu’s business model.EGM wrote:My issue with Kathmandu being rated so highly is their quality. I have no doubt they're a highly ethical company but the quality of some of their clothes is not impressive and certainly can't be compared to Patagonia.
Longevity has to been considered when discussing environmental impact and Patagonia is one of the best.
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