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Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Sat 13 Jul, 2019 10:41 pm
by iTool
Hi all,

Heading to Tassie for the first time, and will be staying at Cradle for a couple of nights mid-August. Got a few questions for those who know the area well.

1. Summitting Cradle at that time of the year - feasible? Microspikes or crampons necessary? Verglas on rocks? Stupid idea for a solo day trip? I see the summit track runs up the west side, so I'm guess it only thaws out mid-late morning if at all?
2. Other walks around there with wife and little one in tow e.g. lake circuit, Hanson's peak - slippery enough (or sections that are steep enough) to make microspikes a necessity? Does the lake boardwalk ice up deeper than any chicken wire?

We've previously spent a couple of years hiking and scrambling in the Canadian Rockies (year round) but that was a few years ago so we're probably a little rusty in winter conditions now. We always went in groups as well, so we had support if conditions suddenly went to *&%$#!.

I stupidly sold off my microspikes and ice axe before returning to Oz, thinking I'd never need them again...

Re: Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul, 2019 3:32 am
by Xastorm
I just spent 9 days hiking through there are didn’t take my micro spikes off once, plus used poles. Very icey conditions around Cradle!

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Re: Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul, 2019 9:29 am
by iTool
Xastorm wrote:I just spent 9 days hiking through there are didn’t take my micro spikes off once, plus used poles. Very icey conditions around Cradle!


Well that definitely answers the question about traction aides...

Thanks!

Re: Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul, 2019 1:15 pm
by north-north-west
Cradle can be done in winter, but it depends on the conditions on the day. There are a lot of big boulders on the ascent track and some big gaps between those boulders, so it's not a place to be taking chances. Still worth going up onto the plateau even if you don't summit.

Dove Lake circuit is usually fine year round, ditto the forest tracks at both Waldheim and Pencil Pine. Cradle Valley boardwalk may have snow over sections. Lilla and Wombat Pool tracks will have a fair bit of ice. Crater Falls won't be too bad but there will probably be ice near the lake. Hansons and Twisted Lakes will have ice and possibly snow. Face Track will almost definitely have snow. Wilks track will have some ice.

Microspikes are worth their weight in diamonds this time of year.

Re: Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul, 2019 11:33 pm
by iTool
north-north-west wrote:Cradle can be done in winter, but it depends on the conditions on the day. There are a lot of big boulders on the ascent track and some big gaps between those boulders, so it's not a place to be taking chances. Still worth going up onto the plateau even if you don't summit.

Dove Lake circuit is usually fine year round, ditto the forest tracks at both Waldheim and Pencil Pine. Cradle Valley boardwalk may have snow over sections. Lilla and Wombat Pool tracks will have a fair bit of ice. Crater Falls won't be too bad but there will probably be ice near the lake. Hansons and Twisted Lakes will have ice and possibly snow. Face Track will almost definitely have snow. Wilks track will have some ice.

Microspikes are worth their weight in diamonds this time of year.


Thanks for the detailed response. I've just ordered some pairs of Grivel microspikes, will be interesting to see how they compare to the Hillsound Ultras and Kahtoolas that I've worn before.

I guess I'll set some objectives based on conditions when I get there, though I'm expecting that more ice will have built up over the next month.

Re: Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Tue 06 Aug, 2019 7:14 pm
by Petew
Just finished the OT. Microspikes are an essential bit of gear this time of year.

Cradle mountain and mt Ossa were a no go when we went past but we did get up Pelion east, very nice.

Re: Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Wed 07 Aug, 2019 8:16 pm
by iTool
Petew wrote:Cradle mountain and mt Ossa were a no go when we went past


Thanks, out of interest what factored into your decision for Cradle?

Re: Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Thu 08 Aug, 2019 8:17 am
by Petew
Started at 11.30am. packs were full so decided discretion was the better part of Valor.

Mt Ossa looked to have a great snow chute to die on and timing again so up Pelion east instead.

Re: Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Fri 09 Aug, 2019 6:06 pm
by Xastorm
How was your walk Pete??

Re: Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Sat 10 Aug, 2019 2:50 pm
by Petew
Fantastic! The walk was flatter than expected and stunning. Weather was good, hardly any rain. Only saw seven other walkers all week. Only had to share a hut once (new Pelion). Temperature was pretty mild.

Packs were reasonably light considering eight days worth of food and a bottle of cinnamon whiskey. Plus microspikes, winter clothing, walking poles etc...16kg at the start.

Would have liked one more day to explore waterfall valley. Good excuse to go back I guess.

I also really enjoyed and savoured every minute of the walk along lake St Clair.

D&M were fantastic and friendly hosts too.

Now to start planning the next winter adventure. Probably Cape Wrath trail in Scotland or maybe a North to South Iceland epic.

Some photos

Re: Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Sat 10 Aug, 2019 5:29 pm
by Orion
Nice photos! Thanks.

Re: Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Sat 10 Aug, 2019 6:06 pm
by vagrom
Great photos. I didn't know there was an angle that gives Barn Bluff the famed pyramid shape of Gould.

Re: Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Sat 10 Aug, 2019 6:23 pm
by Petew
Yeah, just near the old hut, that's the creek next to it but maybe 20 meters away. It was a good sunset and a super clear night. Best night for stars.

Re: Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Sat 10 Aug, 2019 6:46 pm
by Petew
Couple more pikkys

Re: Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Sun 11 Aug, 2019 7:41 pm
by Xastorm
That’s awesome Pete, and sensational photos. You really capture the magic of the area.

Re: Cradle walks in August

PostPosted: Sun 11 Aug, 2019 8:19 pm
by Mark F
Petew wrote:Nice plants whose name escapes me but look like they belong somewhere tropical.

Pandani (Richea pandanifolia) Related to scoparia.