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Feathertop conditions

PostPosted: Wed 03 Jun, 2020 11:38 am
by lachlanf
Hey,

Bit of a long shot considering Parks have only just re-opened, but does anyone know the current conditions in terms of snow cover at Feathertop? Hotham webcams show fair coverage but doesn't look like a lot of depth, I assume similar on Feathertop but not sure.

Mate and I are planning this weekend to come up over the Stoney Top track and North Razorback to summit Feathertop and go out via Razorback and Bon Accord... Main concerns are:

1. Whether the North Razorback - which I've not walked before - will be easily navigable given it gets less traffic? Not in terms of getting lost - that would be hard on a ridge, but in terms of being on the track not just stomping around on alpine grasses and rocks..

2. Whether there is any danger in the northern approach of Feathertop? Will have microspikes and poles, and can bring an axe if recommended.

I suspect I'm just boxing at shadows, but my hiking colleague is a bit nervous for his first time hiking in snow and I can always plan a route on the well walked Bungalow with only an optional summit if needed.

Re: Feathertop conditions

PostPosted: Wed 03 Jun, 2020 12:31 pm
by stry
I'm a fan of plans that have options.

Commitment to plans without options can lead to disappointment.

Re: Feathertop conditions

PostPosted: Wed 03 Jun, 2020 8:22 pm
by msrlo
Just be aware of the gate on the Stoney Top track might be already closed, so might mean a bit more walking but it definitely has the best views going that way to Feathertop

Re: Feathertop conditions

PostPosted: Thu 04 Jun, 2020 11:34 am
by lachlanf
thanks msrlo - looks like the closures are starting on the 11th, but anyway we're only getting dropped in a Forester so I wasn't too ambitious with how far up we'd get dropped, was planning to play it by ear but likely between the turn off for the Big Flat Track and where Dungey Track and Stoney Top diverge - which based on this map doesn't look like it's at any risk of being closed:

https://www.parks.vic.gov.au/-/media/pr ... C597ED4C61

We will end up walking on 4WD roads a bit and probably get buzzed by a few, but at least it's some easy K's to warm up the legs.

Re: Feathertop conditions

PostPosted: Sun 07 Jun, 2020 11:20 am
by paidal_chalne_vala
There is no water on the N. Razorback. It is very exposed once you leave the old helipad at the end of the 4 WD track. If you are heading for Fed. hut or MUMC hut then you are committing to crossing the summit. The weather can be foul and visibility can be zero up there. Choose a good weather window.
If we get snow then the summit could be icy and micro spikes and an ice axe would not be overkill at all.

Re: Feathertop conditions

PostPosted: Mon 29 Jun, 2020 9:25 pm
by clarence
Very exposed ridge like p-c-v said. Easy going along the trail until it goes above the treeline. I agree with all other comments in his post. Vegetation and rocks above the treeline are just like the Federation Hut side of Feathertop, just without the well worn foot pad.

Doing it in winter without axe and crampons would be quite silly. Even without snow, the ground could be iced up.

It is one of the few true alpine ridges in Australia. Probably not an ideal route for a first timer in snow.

I have done it both ways, but in good weather (not winter). It is a stunning ridge.

Clarence

Re: Feathertop conditions

PostPosted: Tue 30 Jun, 2020 10:14 pm
by Rlgm12
Can someone confirm for me that typical Cornice formation on Feathertop on on the eastern side?

Also there hasn’t been enough snow fall yet for such to have formed?

Re: Feathertop conditions

PostPosted: Tue 21 Jul, 2020 2:47 pm
by commando
Remember this one ?

Re: Feathertop conditions

PostPosted: Wed 22 Jul, 2020 7:26 am
by Xplora
commando wrote:Remember this one ?

We pulled out of a planned trip up there at the same time due to the weather. There is a lot more to that story. Found on a ledge by the Channel 7 chopper and then taken to Bright Hospital with a sprained ankle. Bright hospital was not able to deal with his injury well enough so he was air lifted to Melbourne for further treatment.

Re: Feathertop conditions

PostPosted: Fri 24 Jul, 2020 12:13 am
by commando
sooner or later everyone does a solo trip, but out there in winter solo is folly.

Re: Feathertop conditions

PostPosted: Fri 24 Jul, 2020 7:27 am
by Xplora
commando wrote:sooner or later everyone does a solo trip, but out there in winter solo is folly.

I haven't done a solo trip for a long time now I have a good walking partner but winter solo trips are common and OK if you know what you are doing. Tim Holding did not know what he was doing and made poor decisions IMO.

Re: Feathertop conditions

PostPosted: Sun 16 Aug, 2020 3:47 pm
by paidal_chalne_vala
I have ascended Mt. Feathertop from an established camp site at Fed. hut, solo , in the dark in June snow and ice, to watch the sunrise from the Mt.FT summit. I had micro spikes, an ice axe and a head torch, plus PLB, mob.ph. spare food , water ,
, extra jacket etc. in my day pack. I know the route really well and the weather was totally clear and suitable for such a memorable solo mission. I knew what I was doing. Who dares wins ;-P .

Re: Feathertop conditions

PostPosted: Sun 16 Aug, 2020 6:19 pm
by commando
Hi Paidal
I was referring to suit-wearing Politicians not experienced capable guides.
We did some fall arrest practice with ice axes on the west side of Mt Feathertop one winter
my two other friends said it looked dangerous when i was doing barrel rolls with an ice axe in hand
practice has to be real...

Re: Feathertop conditions

PostPosted: Sun 16 Aug, 2020 8:22 pm
by paidal_chalne_vala
I know how to use an ice axe for self arrest, cutting steps, traverses with three points of contact on the icy surface etc. and some other things but I am mainly Back country XC ski touring the Bogong High Plains , that is usually in a normal white season .So an ice axe is not necessary for that activity. I have been seen with a whippet self arrest ski pole. You can do yourself a mischief with one of those too , esp. if you are not careful.