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Grampians Bushwalkers compelled to go Hands Free?

Postby Bill P » Sat 30 Apr, 2022 6:33 pm

In their fanaticism to ban rockclimbing in the Grampians, Parks Vic appear to have inadvertently prohibited the use of ones hands while bushwalking.

Incredible? Have a look a the fascinating correspondence regarding Scrambling between guide author Glenn Tempest and Parks Vic.

https://osp.com.au/?page_id=766
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Re: Grampians Bushwalkers compelled to go Hands Free?

Postby sandym » Sat 30 Apr, 2022 6:39 pm

Vic Parks lost the plot a long time ago but yes this is a very disturbing trend that continues to worsen.
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Re: Grampians Bushwalkers compelled to go Hands Free?

Postby paidal_chalne_vala » Sat 30 Apr, 2022 6:50 pm

Madness on stilts. Soon only wheelchair friendly access routes will be permitted anywhere in Parks in Victoria.
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Meanwhile the Timbertop school students in the Buller/ Howitt area scramble up King Spur and Helicopter spur every year in November.
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Re: Grampians Bushwalkers compelled to go Hands Free?

Postby EGM » Sat 30 Apr, 2022 7:29 pm

It really makes you wonder why they are spending so much time and effort coming up with these confusing and near impossible to enforce rules.
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Re: Grampians Bushwalkers compelled to go Hands Free?

Postby Baeng72 » Sat 30 Apr, 2022 7:50 pm

Ah, one size fits all.
Don't like rock climbing, ban people doing anything that has the remote appearance of rock climbing.
Don't like people camping and leaving rubbish, ban all dispersed camping.
Laws and rules have to cater for the lowest common denominator, and it would seem parks want to have some rules to cover their behinds or whatever.
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Re: Grampians Bushwalkers compelled to go Hands Free?

Postby Aardvark » Sun 01 May, 2022 10:50 am

Rule No.1
Don't get caught.
You're only guilty if you're caught.
Ever on the search for a one ended stick.
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Re: Grampians Bushwalkers compelled to go Hands Free?

Postby CraigVIC » Sun 01 May, 2022 6:57 pm

Glenn may have painted us into a corner by very publicly pointing out bushwalkers could legally scramble the same areas where climbers were being banned. Parks were never going to go the other way on the issue.

Still, it's tragic.
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Re: Grampians Bushwalkers compelled to go Hands Free?

Postby Nuts » Thu 05 May, 2022 10:16 am

I like to see parks standing up to protect things, and at or even beyond their capacity. But wow this is getting a bit silly, seems education is really the only hope here? Which, if a chance of working, needs parks and others working together (rather than leaky plugs for needling loopholes)
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Re: Grampians Bushwalkers compelled to go Hands Free?

Postby Warin » Thu 05 May, 2022 1:07 pm

:!: Bit hard not to use your hands on some Grampians 'bushwalks'... Hollow Mountain for example ...
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Re: Grampians Bushwalkers compelled to go Hands Free?

Postby north-north-west » Thu 05 May, 2022 2:30 pm

Waiting for someone to get fined and banned next time they trip or stumble and grab a tree or rock to prevent themselves falling.
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Re: Grampians Bushwalkers compelled to go Hands Free?

Postby peregrinator » Thu 05 May, 2022 3:48 pm

north-north-west wrote:Waiting for someone to get fined and banned next time they trip or stumble and grab a tree or rock to prevent themselves falling.


The grinning and gawking bushwalkers pictured on Parks Vic's website never trip or stumble.
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Re: Grampians Bushwalkers compelled to go Hands Free?

Postby north-north-west » Thu 05 May, 2022 4:01 pm

peregrinator wrote:
north-north-west wrote:Waiting for someone to get fined and banned next time they trip or stumble and grab a tree or rock to prevent themselves falling.


The grinning and gawking bushwalkers pictured on Parks Vic's website never trip or stumble.


Because they don't actually walk.
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Re: Grampians Bushwalkers compelled to go Hands Free?

Postby CraigVIC » Tue 28 Jun, 2022 7:21 pm

This has been posted on the ACAV Facebook. The restrictions seem to be being continuously strengthened far beyond anything proposed in the long public discussion on the new management plan.
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