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Sun 08 Aug, 2021 3:22 pm
We now have about 1700 walks documented and mapped. All have
*PDF map and notes download
*basic track notes
*Lots of other stuff like weather, nearby walks, etc. Looks at the walks to see all the information
Coming soon to walks
*Tracknotes in other languages (early next year)
*App that works offline
*Ability for users to upload photos (in the next 3 weeks or so I hope - they need to be geocoded so we can attach them to the right walks at the right point)
*My whiteboard is pretty full -- but keep the ideas coming
Sun 08 Aug, 2021 6:17 pm
Sun 08 Aug, 2021 9:12 pm
Mon 09 Aug, 2021 10:32 am
Nuts wrote:As opposed to non-notable changes
If not already (and even if available somewhere else) I'd urge you to run these past the local park services. To merge your topics in an example, I can think of many walking tracks where structures (such as viewing platforms, bridges etc) need to comply with an urban standard, that is well beyond anything realistic for the track leading to it. There may be reasons, besides those obvious, to keep the numbers low, rather than be driven to comply the entire track or otherwise try to manage the increased pressure.
Mon 09 Aug, 2021 10:41 am
wander wrote:Will you need to move to a subscription model to keep going?
Which I have no problem with.
Mon 09 Aug, 2021 10:56 am
cough wrote:I'll miss the green colour scheme in the forum!
cough wrote:What considerations are given as to what tracks are "documented and mapped" and added to the bushwalk.com website? I ask this as many off-track walks in my area are sadly almost becoming track walks with the amount of traffic they are now getting due to increased visitation (thanks to social media, the internet and word of mouth).
Mon 09 Aug, 2021 1:31 pm
wildwalks wrote:1) document these remote walks - but the public view of the walk is very limited, not detailed map and pushing the risks to people and place - and suggesting alternative walks
2) have a 'trusted class 6' people group on the website. They can nominate other trusted people. Trusted people can download full details on the walk.
This model has a lot of obvious issues but I do think we need to head in a direction like that if we have any hope of curving the broader issue.
Mon 09 Aug, 2021 4:26 pm
north-north-west wrote:There is merit in the idea of walks being listed/mentioned, with a big (VERY BIG) warning first and foremost about all the potential hazards and requirements. Try to make sure that anyone even looking at the list cannot miss the information. Make sure all the reasons they shouldn't even think about it are in their faces.
But this runs into one of the issues you brought up on the 'Access' thread: there are people who have difficulty in reading and absorbing this information. Then you have the wannabes who will ignore all the warnings anyway because 'meh, how hard can it be?" (we've literally had someone say that when the Breminator was looking for companions for another attempt at his infamous Federation route). So, the 'trusted class 6' group ... well, yeah, good idea but, really, if you're at that level, you can - or you should be able to - find the basic info to make your plan anyway. You shouldn't need GPX files and someone else's map and notes.
There's no way to dodge deliberate ignorance, arrogance and a sense of entitlement.
Mon 09 Aug, 2021 4:39 pm
Mon 09 Aug, 2021 4:59 pm
wildwalks wrote:Whilst all the 'responsible' publishers (need a better name) avoid writing about it then that information is just not accessible to the average person so they are left with all this dodgy information at the top of google.
Yep the trusted class 6 people group would have a bunch of issues as I see it too. Although I don't need a GPX on class 6 walks I sometimes like to have one anyway - so there is a difference between needing and stuff been handy.
Oh the cans of worms we can open
Mon 09 Aug, 2021 5:19 pm
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Tue 10 Aug, 2021 8:50 am
wildwanderer wrote:Looking awesome Matt.
wildwanderer wrote:Walk section really good now to navigate. Is their a way to see a text listing by national park?
wildwanderer wrote:A few things I noticed.
- in the equipment section, the first aid kit is missing a snake bite bandage aka setopress or similar. (Though that might be what the elastic rollers mentioned are)
- the magazine section is a http link so I get warning about non secure site.
wildwanderer wrote:Tend to agree with NNW on the remote walks. If youre at that level you shouldn't need track notes. Although pass and river crossing locations are nice to have. It's a shame the traditional way and still the best IMO way of learning about these remote regions 'join a bushwalking club' is not as valued by the general population as it used to be.
Tue 10 Aug, 2021 9:03 am
Tue 10 Aug, 2021 9:16 am
Nuts wrote:I can imagine the disinterest of some park managers, after-all, unless they are entirely agreeable, it's yet another conflict to manage.
Nuts wrote:Then again, in the clumsy wild west, the dis-information itself may be equally 'self-limiting'.
But obviously, when all 'acceptable' tracks are packed, the routes are the next frontier. Whatever current limits and best intentions, nothing left to the imagination.
Nuts wrote:I don't know, sounds like the railwaymen solution.
Nuts wrote:Anyhow, no offence, but it's sounding like a brand shopfront
Nuts wrote:I would be surprised (or saddened) if you don't hear from P&W in some capacity.
Tue 10 Aug, 2021 9:25 am
rcaffin wrote:There is one very obvious reason the Parks managers do not want to be involved: legal liability.
rcaffin wrote:Perhaps, for 'class 6' walks, you just don't give any detail? As a hard rule.
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Mon 16 Aug, 2021 1:39 pm
kymboy wrote:Hey Matt
I just came into the forum via the new front page, but when I click on the big bushwalk.com banner on the forum page it brings me back to the forum.
So no way to get to the front page yet off the forum that I see.... (edit) ... unless it's that little Home (coming soon) button
Mon 16 Aug, 2021 1:40 pm
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Mon 13 Sep, 2021 5:43 pm
beardless wrote:I think I will miss the green colour scheme of this forum. It is a calming colour and for me is synonymous with bushwalking.
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