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Flameless Heater

Postby ofuros » Sun 12 Dec, 2021 6:02 pm

Quick review of Barocook pouch & heat pack.

Reusable Pouch (recyclable), 20g flameless heat pack (non toxic & biodegradable...obviously don't chew on it) + long spoon. Total 64g
Ultralight ! ?

The Pouch accommodates a single or double serve (freeze dried or home dehydrated). Pouch has a Zip lock top, couple of holes to let out steam & is gusseted (stands by itself). Inflates like a defensive puffer fish after initial water & heat pack reaction.

Heat packs available in packs of ten. 20g & 50g packs.
20g suitable for single serve, 50g for double serve (more water to heat up). Around $3 each. If your out walking every weekend probably a bit expensive. If your a monthly adventurer, might be worthwhile.

Burn time around 25mins.(Both sizes)

Heats food until hot... doesn't cook it.

Silent.

Doubles as hand warmer for our bushwalking friends south of the Qld border.

Stick it in your beanie to insulate in colder climes.

Flameless

Non toxic & biodegradable. 8)

I went for a cooling swim in Mt Barney creek while the pouch did it's thing... :D

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Smokey pork, beans, rice in a rich tomato based sauce. Home dehy. :wink:

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Like it alot... ✓
Wish the heater packs were cheaper.

Available online in Oz.

More info from the maker...
http://www.barocook.net/eng/product/fla ... ing-pouch/
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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby Orion » Mon 13 Dec, 2021 3:46 am

That looks it could be handy for certain situations.

ofuros wrote:Non toxic & biodegradable. 8)

Are you sure? :-)

They don't reveal the ingredients. This is from their FAQ:

"BAROPACK consists of 18 natural materials.
It is eco-friendly products.
Its steam comes out when water is analyzed into oxygen and hydrogen so it's non-toxic and hamless.
BAROPACK is double packaged.
Do not tear it and taste the content or use it for anything other than heating packs.
"

My guess is it's iron based.


ofuros wrote:Wish the heater packs were cheaper.

You could take a stab at making your own if you can find an inexpensive source of iron filings.
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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby ofuros » Mon 13 Dec, 2021 4:22 am

It's quicklime based, it's printed on the packet & on their heat pack page...& i also dropped the company a email about longer trips. They're saying a spent heat pack ingredients are ok in the environment.

I've been bringing the spent burner home anyway as I'm only out for a couple of nights at most.
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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby JohnnoMcJohnno » Mon 13 Dec, 2021 7:11 am

Looks interesting. About 10 years ago I remember buying pre-made coffee in what looked like a regular drink can, but you pulled a tab that released quicklime which then heated the coffee. Took about 7 minutes, all self contained and no mess. Maybe not eco-friendly but it was really handy when you were on the night shift in winter. This sounds like the same process. I see it says 100 degrees C on the pack, but can it boil water?
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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby crollsurf » Mon 13 Dec, 2021 8:24 am

Hi ofurus, I like this although I'm curious about the silver zip lock your food is in. Is that part of the pouch setup, which you can wash out or did you get that elsewhere?

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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby ofuros » Mon 13 Dec, 2021 8:28 am

JohnnoMcJohnno wrote: I see it says 100 degrees C on the pack, but can it boil water?


Inside your meal packet...it will almost boil but not quite.

In the pouch itself, the reaction between the heat pad & a small amount of water produces steam, that's the 100°c printed on the outside.

So you'll still have to filter water if you think it's dodgy.

20g & 50g heat pack burn temps below...

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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby ofuros » Mon 13 Dec, 2021 8:59 am

crollsurf wrote:Hi ofurus, I like this although I'm curious about the silver zip lock your food is in. Is that part of the pouch setup, which you can wash out or did you get that elsewhere?

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I have reused my old thin freeze dried zip locks, but the pictured silver mylar zip lock are a thicker version with gusseted bottom and are a recent separate purchase. ( Home pre-cooked & dehydrated rice is particularly pointy & sharp)
I like them because I can clean, dry, refill & reuse (you can also add a oxygen absorber, heat seal it & store dried food for months or even years).
Available in various sizes.
Roughly $1-2each depending on size. Downside...min purchase 25
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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby Orion » Mon 13 Dec, 2021 3:37 pm

ofuros wrote:It's quicklime based, it's printed on the packet & on their heat pack page...& i also dropped the company a email about longer trips. They're saying a spent heat pack ingredients are ok in the environment.

Thanks.


ofuros wrote:I've been bringing the spent burner home anyway as I'm only out for a couple of nights at most.

What does it weigh on the return trip?
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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby crollsurf » Mon 13 Dec, 2021 3:50 pm

ofuros wrote:
crollsurf wrote:Hi ofurus, I like this although I'm curious about the silver zip lock your food is in. Is that part of the pouch setup, which you can wash out or did you get that elsewhere?

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Available in various sizes.
Roughly $1-2each depending on size. Downside...min purchase 25

These Mylar packs are new to me. Can you recommend a size that works well with the pouch?

I'm guessing I can seal and vacuum pack them with my Aldi sealer. Plus the pouch and heaters look like they'd pack down nicely.


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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby ofuros » Mon 13 Dec, 2021 5:30 pm

Orion wrote:What does it weigh on the return trip?


Nothing if you bury it. Sprinkle it over your morning ablutions. Bring home the white casing.
Just be wary, quicklime & eyes don't mix.

...or a 20g heat pack expands to 64g
...a 50g heat pack expands to 109g
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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby ofuros » Mon 13 Dec, 2021 5:47 pm

crollsurf wrote:These Mylar packs are new to me. Can you recommend a size that works well with the pouch?

I'm guessing I can seal and vacuum pack them with my Aldi sealer. Plus the pouch and heaters look like they'd pack down nicely.


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The Barocook pouch is roughly 20cm x 30cm
I got the Medium size (946ml) 18cm x 20cm x 7.6cm...fits nicely.

From here...oxygen absorbers also available.

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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby crollsurf » Wed 29 Dec, 2021 8:50 pm

Had no luck with the Korean site and can't find the pouches elsewhere. Anyone know where you can get your hands on the pouches or an alternative.

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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby ofuros » Thu 30 Dec, 2021 7:33 am

crollsurf wrote:Had no luck with the Korean site and can't find the pouches elsewhere. Anyone know where you can get your hands on the pouches or an alternative.

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Emailed off a couple of enquiries to local stockists to see if they can add them to their inventory. Local Amazon & eBay have run dry too

The alternative MRE pouches I've tried are too narrow, ungusseted, better suited to the narrow MRE food packs.

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Pm me your address, crollsurf. I have a spare pouch I can send you.
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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby crollsurf » Thu 30 Dec, 2021 8:08 am

Thanks ofuros, will do

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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby wildwanderer » Wed 19 Jan, 2022 11:41 am

Saw these in action recently. Impressive how quickly they heat up a meal. Bonus points for the Turkish steam bath ambiance they give your camp.

Note they do seem to have a use by date.. we also had some older ones that lost their puff and took ages to heat up. The new ones were off like a rocket.
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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby ofuros » Thu 20 Jan, 2022 6:17 am

Yes, it's not a bad product...should be more readily available here in Oz.
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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby ofuros » Thu 03 Feb, 2022 5:50 pm

Pouches are back in stock on Amazon au for those interested. :wink:
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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby wildwanderer » Sun 03 Apr, 2022 9:02 am

Does anyone know if the water heated by the pouch is drinkable?

Mine (military MRE ones) have a warning saying the heating element and its byproducts are not for consumption but I'm not sure if that just means the white bricks.

Be a nice way to get a cuppa while increasing weight efficiency/reducing water waste.
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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby ofuros » Sun 03 Apr, 2022 9:44 am

wildwanderer wrote:Does anyone know if the water heated by the pouch is drinkable?


No, it's not drinkable. It's part of the chemical reaction.

Play at home 1st, you might be able to warm a cuppa as the burner lasts for roughly 25mins. Take the hot meal out halfway through the burn, replace with another ziploc with your brew inside.
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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby wildwanderer » Sun 03 Apr, 2022 7:14 pm

Thanks for the info. :)
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Re: Flameless Heater

Postby ofuros » Wed 13 Apr, 2022 12:33 pm

Playing around...you can add 2pouches with the heater sandwiched vertically in the middle (instead of lying flat on the bottom) and heat both at the same time.

250ml beverage in one pouch.
Freeze dried/dehydrated or MRE meal in the other.
Turn the meal pouch half way through for even heating.

Single 20g burner



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