Stibb wrote:Does anyone have anything to say about this adapter?
http://ivy-camp.en.made-in-china.com/pr ... -702-.html
I've been thinking of getting the Fire Maple 116T or the 100T. With this adapter it seems like 116T would have an edge because of its weight + in winter you could just bring the adapter and turn the canister upside down if necessary.
Thoughts?
Maelgwn wrote:116T doesnt have a pre heat tube, so you would need to home make something to allow you to run the canister upside down ... (e.g. "heat shunt" using brass or alu - see BPL for lots of details!)
corvus wrote:G'day gmrza,
When you receive your Camp 5 and have tested it can you please post a bit of a review as has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum it looks a wee bit on the flimsy side and appears to have a flame thrower type burner head and will require a wind shield.
As a stove Tragic I am always looking at what is new and innovative on the market and the price is OK not to cause concern with Mrs corvus
corvus
flyinglion2000 wrote:Hi all
I recently bought a Kovea "Cobra" - a stove stand that takes the butane long cans (gmrza is that what you have as mentioned in your last post?)
Quite possibly. Or possibly screwing up a very nice Reactor stove. I would not run a Reactor off of the cheap butane unless I were sure the gas were vaporized. The Reactor is quite expensive. To me at least, I wouldn't risk such a nice stove like the Reactor with the 100% butane canisters until I had established a reliable method of vaporizing the gas. On a simple stove, I'd be willing to experiment. On a pricey stove like the Reactor, I would not.flyinglion2000 wrote:My concern with teh Kovea Cobra is whether I will get a liquid fuel feed through to whatever I have hooked up to it - especially in cold whether. In Brisbane at the moment the ambient temperature is quite hot so I am thinking the fuel in the long can is well on it way to vapourisation so no issues (??) but in cold weather I am not so sure. Pictures like HJ posted make me wonder. The Kovea Cobra doesn't appear to have any preheat mechanism that I can determine (I am not an expert!). The MSR eactor is such that there is very little heat radiated downwards underneath the stove (I can place my fingers beneath it quite no worries). You would expect this from a direct coupled gas canister stove I suppose.
Am I courting a liquid fuel feed fire danger here????
Yes. This is indeed true. I tried it. Not recommended.gmrza wrote:This adapter is only really going to be useful for a remote canister stove, since a long butane can is not going to be stable enough to act as a stove base.
There does appear to be a safety concern with this adapter, that you have to attach it to the stove first. I am guessing that if you attach it to the can first, you will have a can spewing gas - not good. This piece of equipment is therefor not idiot-proof.
Likewise. Applying heat to a combustible, potentially explosive gas shouldn't be taken lightly.rucksack wrote:If one were to be thinking of using, say a FMS-702 with a bit of home-built heating ‘assistance’, and either a Kovea TKA-9504 or Fire Maple FMS-701 tacked on as well, (so as to access some cheaper cartridge gas fuel), I for one would definitely be moving my tent elsewhere.
Hikin Jim wrote
"There is a vapor feed tube inside those 100% butane "long" cans. If the notch on the collar is up, the tube sucks vapor off the top, and all is well."
rucksack wrote:These are the gas blends that I am aware of, in the various canisters (and in the Kovea cartridge) ...
PRIMUS
110g The Primus web site simply says: propane/isobutane/butane blend
225g
450g
rucksack
KOVEA
110g 85% isobutane 15% propane
230g 70% isobutane 30% propane
450g 80% butane 20% propane
220g* 82% butane 18% propane
in warm temperatures and down to 5-10C range not much but around 0C that is when Iso-Butane/Propane mix is better, in winter I use a liquid feed gas stove where it is the Propane that does the work of pushing the liquid gas out of the canister, in that case it matters little whether it is Iso-Butane/Propane or Butane/Propane mix, I have use 25% propane mixes quite successfully in the snow.Just a question though Tony .. how much real difference do you think these varying blends have on a stove's performance?
I have been using the Kovea 75% isobutane/25% Propane mix, but as the Kovea gas is getting expensive I will be using straight Butane from now on.what blend do you use when you are doing your tests
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