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Sun 13 Dec, 2009 9:28 am
The problem with a lot of lightweight stuff is that it isn't available at your local store so it can be a bit of a leap of faith in buying it.
One shelter that I think has a lot of potential as a three season tent for Tasmania is the Tarptent Moment.
810 g with the two pegs. Details here:
http://www.tarptent.com/moment.html
I have 4 of the other solo TT shelters, they all have their own strong and week points but this one I think is the best compromise between weight and strength. Looks much easier and faster to erect than most other shelters of this type. One owner confirmed that he can set it up faster than the Contrail and I do that in 1 to 2 minutes.
This morning a new owner has posted some comments about the design and 61 (!) pictures of it in his gallery.
http://picasaweb.google.com/awallace198 ... edwebsite#
There is also an interesting video clip there so that you can get a pretty good idea of what is like.
(I'll find out the size of FeetFirst , the owner...)
For Tassie some will feel more comfortable using the extra longitudinal pole, 200g. That turns the Moment into a freestanding shelter and helps if you get fought under unseasonal snow.
These two pics are from the designer of the shelter (Henry Shires) from his backyard.
About 25 cm of snow fell overnight , so a reasonable amount for a test.
(FeetFirst, Alex, is 5"10", 178cm tall)
Franco
One shelter that I think has a lot of potential as a three season tent for Tasmania is the Tarptent Moment.
810 g with the two pegs. Details here:
http://www.tarptent.com/moment.html
I have 4 of the other solo TT shelters, they all have their own strong and week points but this one I think is the best compromise between weight and strength. Looks much easier and faster to erect than most other shelters of this type. One owner confirmed that he can set it up faster than the Contrail and I do that in 1 to 2 minutes.
This morning a new owner has posted some comments about the design and 61 (!) pictures of it in his gallery.
http://picasaweb.google.com/awallace198 ... edwebsite#
There is also an interesting video clip there so that you can get a pretty good idea of what is like.
(I'll find out the size of FeetFirst , the owner...)
For Tassie some will feel more comfortable using the extra longitudinal pole, 200g. That turns the Moment into a freestanding shelter and helps if you get fought under unseasonal snow.
These two pics are from the designer of the shelter (Henry Shires) from his backyard.
About 25 cm of snow fell overnight , so a reasonable amount for a test.
(FeetFirst, Alex, is 5"10", 178cm tall)
Franco
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Sun 13 Dec, 2009 11:48 am
Thanks Franco,
Great pictures. It is on my list to get but I have to sell my Betamid tent first.
Tony
Great pictures. It is on my list to get but I have to sell my Betamid tent first.
Tony
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Sun 13 Dec, 2009 5:58 pm
Looks like I may have found a Tarp Tent to suit 
corvus
corvus
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Mon 14 Dec, 2009 4:13 pm
Hi Franco
Looks almost like Henry is knocking a new design out very week. Certainty has a creativity spurt on at the moment. Franco as a gear freak par-excellent have you had a looked at Hilleberg's catalogue and how they rate their particular models? It is probably the best and most honest catalogue I have seen given that they were once considered light weight to be dangerous by the prevailing wisdom at the time. Now they are considered to be classic designs superbly crafted if somewhat expensive.
I like the logic that they use that to be considered four season a tent it must be double walled to deal with fabric failure of the external wall and also retain heat. One of the criticism of bomb proof single skin tents has not been so much the strength but the cold factor. Also Henry himself is very honest over his shelters (and very prompt in his replies and comprehensive in his answers) and might have a view on people's ratings of his designs.
I like that Tarptent are looking at the intrinsic weakness of a single hoop design as such designs are generally not great tents for heavy snow loadings and with my Akto it is definitely not a pitch and walk away and come back after a heavy snow dump design but apart from nightly interruptions to knock the snow off I am delighted with its outing in snow and the warmth it offers. The Solo is a better snow tent along with one other design but they are significantly heavier (in percentage terms).
As the UL crew work on a systems approach to shelter (clothes, sleeping bag, mat shelter all been added and blended to get the appropriate rating for the planned temperature) I wonder if anywhere is a temperature rating of the merits of mesh versus double wall. I.e. Minus 2 bag is fine in Minus 2 with double walled tent while say a -5 is needed with a mesh walled tent. Parks I think in Tasmanian make a comment that huts can be much colder than tents in winter when recommending a -5 sleeping bag as a safe minimum of the OT. Bit like people buying a light weight floored tent and then carting a groundsheet to protect it. And before the flames start there are very good reason to use a ground sheet such as making for a cleaner tent on take down, etc.
I often wonder where is best weight saved to get the lightest weight for any set of conditions envisaged.
Cheers Brett
Looks almost like Henry is knocking a new design out very week. Certainty has a creativity spurt on at the moment. Franco as a gear freak par-excellent have you had a looked at Hilleberg's catalogue and how they rate their particular models? It is probably the best and most honest catalogue I have seen given that they were once considered light weight to be dangerous by the prevailing wisdom at the time. Now they are considered to be classic designs superbly crafted if somewhat expensive.
I like the logic that they use that to be considered four season a tent it must be double walled to deal with fabric failure of the external wall and also retain heat. One of the criticism of bomb proof single skin tents has not been so much the strength but the cold factor. Also Henry himself is very honest over his shelters (and very prompt in his replies and comprehensive in his answers) and might have a view on people's ratings of his designs.
I like that Tarptent are looking at the intrinsic weakness of a single hoop design as such designs are generally not great tents for heavy snow loadings and with my Akto it is definitely not a pitch and walk away and come back after a heavy snow dump design but apart from nightly interruptions to knock the snow off I am delighted with its outing in snow and the warmth it offers. The Solo is a better snow tent along with one other design but they are significantly heavier (in percentage terms).
As the UL crew work on a systems approach to shelter (clothes, sleeping bag, mat shelter all been added and blended to get the appropriate rating for the planned temperature) I wonder if anywhere is a temperature rating of the merits of mesh versus double wall. I.e. Minus 2 bag is fine in Minus 2 with double walled tent while say a -5 is needed with a mesh walled tent. Parks I think in Tasmanian make a comment that huts can be much colder than tents in winter when recommending a -5 sleeping bag as a safe minimum of the OT. Bit like people buying a light weight floored tent and then carting a groundsheet to protect it. And before the flames start there are very good reason to use a ground sheet such as making for a cleaner tent on take down, etc.
I often wonder where is best weight saved to get the lightest weight for any set of conditions envisaged.
Cheers Brett
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Mon 14 Dec, 2009 5:10 pm
Cool photos. Looks like the Moment held up really well. Now that there are a few out there and we're starting to get user reviews it really looks like Henry is onto a(nother) winning design here. If I was in the market for a solo tent the Moment would be right at the top of my list right now.
Brett, if you check the tarptent website you'll see that the only one of their tents that Henry rates as "4 season" is the double walled Scarp 1, and I think he (Henry) has said elsewhere that he would rather be conservative in his ratings than over-hype them. The whole "season" rating thing is always a bit bizarre because 4 seasons in Tas is very different to 4 seasons in Southern California (to pick a random example). There's a European Standard for sleeping bag ratings, but nothing comparable for tents, so it's left up to consumers to interpret various manufacturer's "season" rating - not an ideal situation.
Ideally, we'd have tents listed with a snow, rain, and wind rating, tested to some standard, but I cant see that happening.
That's the real question, isn't it. In a way the whole LW philosophy boils down to trying to solve this optimisation problem. As far as "warmth for weight" goes the current consensus is that it's better to put more weight into the loft of your sleeping bag than anywhere else. That is, as long as you are protected from wind and rain, the best bang for buck to gain more warmth is to increase the insulation of your sleeping bag. But that's just the current view and it's definitely not a settled matter.
Cheers,
Alliecat
Brett, if you check the tarptent website you'll see that the only one of their tents that Henry rates as "4 season" is the double walled Scarp 1, and I think he (Henry) has said elsewhere that he would rather be conservative in his ratings than over-hype them. The whole "season" rating thing is always a bit bizarre because 4 seasons in Tas is very different to 4 seasons in Southern California (to pick a random example). There's a European Standard for sleeping bag ratings, but nothing comparable for tents, so it's left up to consumers to interpret various manufacturer's "season" rating - not an ideal situation.
Ideally, we'd have tents listed with a snow, rain, and wind rating, tested to some standard, but I cant see that happening.
Brett wrote:I often wonder where is best weight saved to get the lightest weight for any set of conditions envisaged.
That's the real question, isn't it. In a way the whole LW philosophy boils down to trying to solve this optimisation problem. As far as "warmth for weight" goes the current consensus is that it's better to put more weight into the loft of your sleeping bag than anywhere else. That is, as long as you are protected from wind and rain, the best bang for buck to gain more warmth is to increase the insulation of your sleeping bag. But that's just the current view and it's definitely not a settled matter.
Cheers,
Alliecat
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Mon 14 Dec, 2009 9:05 pm
Hi
The Moment came about fairly fast and is really the merging of the Scarp and the Rainbow.
(borrowing design elements from both)
The typical gestation period of a TT is about 1 year, this one was up and running in a few months.
As Brett hints talking about the Akto and the Soulo, it is hard to come out with the right balance between strength and weight. So the Akto has been the lightweight tent of choice for all seasons for many , but of course higher up or where wind and or snow are more than moderate the Soulo kicks in. If that is not enough than find a partner and get the Jannu...
The only 4 season Tarptents so far are the Scarp 1 and 2. That rating , as suggested, depends where you are...
(note that both have had the UK/Tassie mods. Fly down to the ground with new zippable vents at each end)
As they are they should perform somewhat like the Akto, with the additional crossing poles , more like the Soulo.
As for warmth I have already mentioned somewhere that I think some end up being cold because of excessive condensation, trying to trap as much heat as possible sacrificing ventilation. (below about 10c higher humidity makes us feel colder)
Ideally I think that we should have a triple layer so as to minimise the difference between the temperature under each layer.
May sound really daft but works in windows ( although I really don't know if it would work in tents and what material would be best for it...)
But, as it stands, a well spaced two layer system, having the inner in fabric not mesh, does help in minimising condensation build up.
Interestingly only a few days ago GE made it known that they will allow eVent to be sold under different brand names (Rab have been more or less doing that already...) so I suspect we may see eVent used again in single wall tents.
eVent does allow a fully enclosed but breathable shelter, in fact it works better when fully sealed (the temp difference pushes the vapours out).
Anyway , to me the Moment is a much better idea than a tarp and bivy solution and should work well in a lot of areas.
Franco
The Moment came about fairly fast and is really the merging of the Scarp and the Rainbow.
(borrowing design elements from both)
The typical gestation period of a TT is about 1 year, this one was up and running in a few months.
As Brett hints talking about the Akto and the Soulo, it is hard to come out with the right balance between strength and weight. So the Akto has been the lightweight tent of choice for all seasons for many , but of course higher up or where wind and or snow are more than moderate the Soulo kicks in. If that is not enough than find a partner and get the Jannu...
The only 4 season Tarptents so far are the Scarp 1 and 2. That rating , as suggested, depends where you are...
(note that both have had the UK/Tassie mods. Fly down to the ground with new zippable vents at each end)
As they are they should perform somewhat like the Akto, with the additional crossing poles , more like the Soulo.
As for warmth I have already mentioned somewhere that I think some end up being cold because of excessive condensation, trying to trap as much heat as possible sacrificing ventilation. (below about 10c higher humidity makes us feel colder)
Ideally I think that we should have a triple layer so as to minimise the difference between the temperature under each layer.
May sound really daft but works in windows ( although I really don't know if it would work in tents and what material would be best for it...)
But, as it stands, a well spaced two layer system, having the inner in fabric not mesh, does help in minimising condensation build up.
Interestingly only a few days ago GE made it known that they will allow eVent to be sold under different brand names (Rab have been more or less doing that already...) so I suspect we may see eVent used again in single wall tents.
eVent does allow a fully enclosed but breathable shelter, in fact it works better when fully sealed (the temp difference pushes the vapours out).
Anyway , to me the Moment is a much better idea than a tarp and bivy solution and should work well in a lot of areas.
Franco
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Mon 14 Dec, 2009 9:53 pm
I've been keen to try one of the Tarptents- this one looks good!
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Tue 15 Dec, 2009 3:04 pm
A bit of Tarptent trivia...
A few days ago a NZ team won for the third time the Abu Dhabi Adventure Challenge. That is a 6 day event involving running,cycling,climbing and kayaking. Part of the rules is having to carry 2 double tents or 1 for 4.
Henry made them two custom tents for the event. The lightest and largest tents they have used so far .
I will post a picture of them when I can.
Franco
http://www.abudhabi-adventure.com/news. ... ej=anglais
(BTW they would be pretty useless down there ...)
A few days ago a NZ team won for the third time the Abu Dhabi Adventure Challenge. That is a 6 day event involving running,cycling,climbing and kayaking. Part of the rules is having to carry 2 double tents or 1 for 4.
Henry made them two custom tents for the event. The lightest and largest tents they have used so far .
I will post a picture of them when I can.
Franco
http://www.abudhabi-adventure.com/news. ... ej=anglais
(BTW they would be pretty useless down there ...)
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Tue 12 Jan, 2010 11:14 am
A point of clarification. The Moment is single skin. But I can see mesh on the door side and at the ends so is it bug proof? Is the wall on the far side sewn into the floor so as to seal from bugs?
K
K
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Tue 12 Jan, 2010 12:22 pm
The Moment is definitely bug proof. The mesh goes from top of the bathtub floor to the inside of the outer skin. There are some photos here, and even a short video tour of the inside here. It can be a little hard to see from the photos (and in fact I asked the same question as you on another forum!) but at the far side of the tent the mesh goes almost horizontally from the top of the floor across to the inside of the skin. You can slide the fly up the curved pole a bit for ventilation and the mesh will still be there to keep the bugs out.
It's a nice design
Cheers,
Alliecat
It's a nice design
Cheers,
Alliecat
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Tue 12 Jan, 2010 12:27 pm
Thanks for that. Sounds as if it ticks most if not all boxes.
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Wed 13 Jan, 2010 9:15 am
I've been thinking about this overnight and am quite interested. I've not dealt with Henry Squires before. I hear he is quite good. What does it cost to get one of these tents shipped out to Australia? I'm in no hurry.
K.
K.
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Wed 13 Jan, 2010 9:34 am
Henry has a great reputation so I'm sure you'd have no troubles buying from him.
For shipping costs, you could contact Henry through the tarptents.com website, or send a PM to franco (he's a big Tarptent fan and has bought several of them so he should have an idea about shipping costs to Aus).
Unfortunately, the website shows the Moment as "on order" right now. The first two production runs sold out really fast. I'd recommend contacting Henry to see if has an expected delivery date for the next run. With the high demand for these it'd be worth placing a pre-order if you can handle a bit of a wait.
Cheers,
Alliecat
For shipping costs, you could contact Henry through the tarptents.com website, or send a PM to franco (he's a big Tarptent fan and has bought several of them so he should have an idea about shipping costs to Aus).
Unfortunately, the website shows the Moment as "on order" right now. The first two production runs sold out really fast. I'd recommend contacting Henry to see if has an expected delivery date for the next run. With the high demand for these it'd be worth placing a pre-order if you can handle a bit of a wait.
Cheers,
Alliecat
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Wed 13 Jan, 2010 12:40 pm
Henry was shipping out Moments only a few days ago, so you just missed out.
Because of the limited output capacity from the Seattle factories he is having some problems ordering enough to keep in stock. I suspect that there is an initial buying frenzy, a lot of his customers are multiple offenders.., but this particular shelter will appeal to new markets such as the UK and obviously Tassie as well so may be still in demand for another few months.
Shipping charges :
"All orders shipped outside the United States are sent via Express Mail International (3-5 business days) or Priority Mail International (6-10 business days). There are always variabilities due to customs procedures at the receiving end. Charges range from $28-$40 depending on weight and service level and are calculated at checkout."(from the TT website)
The above are from the USPS (United States Postal Services) a bit more expensive then some but reliable. You need to sign for the parcel . The quoted times are accurate for Australia.
Franco
Because of the limited output capacity from the Seattle factories he is having some problems ordering enough to keep in stock. I suspect that there is an initial buying frenzy, a lot of his customers are multiple offenders.., but this particular shelter will appeal to new markets such as the UK and obviously Tassie as well so may be still in demand for another few months.
Shipping charges :
"All orders shipped outside the United States are sent via Express Mail International (3-5 business days) or Priority Mail International (6-10 business days). There are always variabilities due to customs procedures at the receiving end. Charges range from $28-$40 depending on weight and service level and are calculated at checkout."(from the TT website)
The above are from the USPS (United States Postal Services) a bit more expensive then some but reliable. You need to sign for the parcel . The quoted times are accurate for Australia.
Franco
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Wed 13 Jan, 2010 4:29 pm
Thanks very much. My last question concerns the fly. It doesn't come right to the ground thus giving better ventilation. I note he has modified the Scarp 1 so that there is now the option of the fly coming down to ground level. Do you consider the absence of this feature in the Moment to be much of an issue?
K.
K.
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Wed 13 Jan, 2010 4:48 pm
My Scarp1 was $34 shipping, the Moment might be a bit cheaper due to the lighter weight.
Michael
Michael
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Wed 13 Jan, 2010 5:59 pm
The Scarp is a convertible 3/4 season double wall tent.
3 season with the standard configuration, 4 by adding the 2 extra cross poles.
The Moment was designed to be a 3 season shelter. As shown above it can take some snow but it isn't specifically designed for that.
The floor can be lifted up somewhat to deflect side winds but you still have one wall on one side and a mesh door on the other.
Don't think of the Moment as a do it all tool.
There isn't a tent that is best everywhere. There never will be one.
Brett
Re :Hilleberg catalogue
I like the logic that they use that to be considered four season a tent it must be double walled to deal with fabric failure of the external wall and also retain heat. One of the criticism of bomb proof single skin tents has not been so much the strength but the cold factor.
Many Bibler,Integral Design and Black Diamond users will dispute that.
But there is no right or wrong. You have to work out what is best for you.
For mountaineers, for example, weight and volume is more important then comfort. So a climber will be happier with a single wall cross pole freestanding at 2kg and maybe use his down jacket inside the sleeping bag then carrying a 3kg two wall bulkier version.
Franco
3 season with the standard configuration, 4 by adding the 2 extra cross poles.
The Moment was designed to be a 3 season shelter. As shown above it can take some snow but it isn't specifically designed for that.
The floor can be lifted up somewhat to deflect side winds but you still have one wall on one side and a mesh door on the other.
Don't think of the Moment as a do it all tool.
There isn't a tent that is best everywhere. There never will be one.
Brett
Re :Hilleberg catalogue
I like the logic that they use that to be considered four season a tent it must be double walled to deal with fabric failure of the external wall and also retain heat. One of the criticism of bomb proof single skin tents has not been so much the strength but the cold factor.
Many Bibler,Integral Design and Black Diamond users will dispute that.
But there is no right or wrong. You have to work out what is best for you.
For mountaineers, for example, weight and volume is more important then comfort. So a climber will be happier with a single wall cross pole freestanding at 2kg and maybe use his down jacket inside the sleeping bag then carrying a 3kg two wall bulkier version.
Franco
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Thu 14 Jan, 2010 10:38 am
I've just placed my order on the Moment.
K.
K.
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Thu 14 Jan, 2010 11:13 am
Yeah- this one is the most tempting Tarptent yet for me, but I need a two person!
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Thu 14 Jan, 2010 2:36 pm
The interesting part (for me) with the Moment is that it works very well (efficiently) as a solo shelter. Usually for only 1/3 or so weight increase you can go from a single to a double ( Rainbow and Scarp for example) however I cannot see this happening with the Moment.
Drifting, if you are around 180cm or under look at the Double Rainbow, at just over 1100 g I would consider that also as a "de luxe" solo lightweight shelter. Because it is symmetrical (hexagonal shape) , it works better in the wind than the Rainbow.
If you are taller or like more space , the Scarp 2 at 1530g is still pretty light . 114cm high in the middle...
Franco
Drifting, if you are around 180cm or under look at the Double Rainbow, at just over 1100 g I would consider that also as a "de luxe" solo lightweight shelter. Because it is symmetrical (hexagonal shape) , it works better in the wind than the Rainbow.
If you are taller or like more space , the Scarp 2 at 1530g is still pretty light . 114cm high in the middle...
Franco
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Thu 14 Jan, 2010 6:11 pm
I'll have a look at the double rainbow! I know the ScarpII well- most tempting!
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Thu 21 Jan, 2010 8:02 pm
The " Moment " has arrived! One week to the day from order. How is that for efficiency.
Now all I need is a good trip to test it out. That may take a while longer.
Now all I need is a good trip to test it out. That may take a while longer.
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Fri 22 Jan, 2010 11:58 am
That's exciting Kanangra, enjoy! Will be interested to hear your report when you've had a chance to use it, especially since you also walk alot in NSW. I'm very tempted at the moment (no pun intended) to buy a one man tent to add to my arsenal and am currently thinking about the Contrail, the Moment and the Scarp 1 (or possibly even two of these to cater for different conditions/types of walks). Tarptents certainly seem to be very well made with quality materials coupled with excellent pricing and customer service!
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Mon 01 Feb, 2010 4:18 pm
I got my new Moment in my hands and plan to use it on the south coast track next week. It looks well made and I will be interesting to see if condensation is an issue.
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Mon 01 Feb, 2010 5:24 pm
Pictures or it didn't happen under10kg!
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Mon 01 Feb, 2010 5:33 pm
Please let us all know how you go with that tent on the SCT. I am very interested.
Have a good trip.
Have a good trip.
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Wed 03 Feb, 2010 11:43 am
Yes I will post some pictures and my feedback on the tent. It only comes with 2 tent pegs so I will take some extra to peg out the side hoops for windy conditions. I will have to add some ties to do this as there is no provision to do this as supplied.
I also are not taking the optional hoop top pole. (taking the middle hoop pole) I figure I can use my two walking poles at each end and connect to the middle tie with some light cord and tention the middle section for more support.
I also are not taking the optional hoop top pole. (taking the middle hoop pole) I figure I can use my two walking poles at each end and connect to the middle tie with some light cord and tention the middle section for more support.
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Wed 03 Feb, 2010 11:50 am
I seam sealed mine on the weekend and noticed two loops on the central pole sleeve that could be used for guy outs.
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Wed 03 Feb, 2010 12:42 pm
I figure I can use my two walking poles at each end and connect to the middle tie with some light cord and tention the middle section for more support.
Yes , good option
Franco
Yes , good option
Franco
Re: Tarptent the Moment
Fri 19 Feb, 2010 3:12 pm
Just did the south coast track with this tent without taking the optional top pole.
Total pack weight was about 13kgs with 10 days food, no water.
I love the way I can put it up in 40 seconds, pole in and just 2 pegs, and it is up.
This is the only tent I have ever purchased that only came with 2 pegs!
I love the weight and the cost about $200 US is nice too!
I love how you can sit up in the tent and most other one man tents I have seen are too low for this.
I love how you can get away from insects if needed compared to a tarp.
I found the tent had excellent ventalation and condensation was low or zero most nights. Having the vents at the top of the tent is a feature most modern tents fall down in. Only one night had more condensation. There is a good gap between your sleeping pag and sides, more so than most 2 walled tents I have used,
I carry a sponge and it is easy to wipe the tent down before packing. Most 2 wall tents I have used had the inner heavy from mosture on some mornings and if you could not dry this out you carried the extra weight.
I had great weather on the walk so this was not a good test of the tent under windy conditions and rain.
I feel you need a sheltered camp for this tent as horizonal rain could carry under the sides and over the 4 inch floor sides. I feel I will add 4 extra tie down loops on the side bottoms 25% along for more windy locations and carry more pegs for the main pole sides etc.
I found you can tighen up the ends to leave a very tight tent if you had secure end pegs in.
I feel I could use 2 clear view blow up modified mummy pads and it could sleep 2 if you were close. Packs would have to be out of the sleeping area. About 400gms each for 2.
Since there is no inner, I feel you would be colder compared to a 2 wall tent.
I got 2 photos but lost my camera lead so that will have to wait before posting.
I had a little damage of about half an inch hole in the side mesh from an animal that needs a patch. I then stored all food in my dry bag in the hope of reducing food odor.
I feel this tent combines the best of tarp and tent systems and is excellent for sheltered sites.
I would love to hear from others how it goes in more difficult conditions. I think I would carry one of those super light emergency foil blanket for some extra side potection over my bag if I was stuck in emergency conditions in a high exposed area.
Total pack weight was about 13kgs with 10 days food, no water.
I love the way I can put it up in 40 seconds, pole in and just 2 pegs, and it is up.
This is the only tent I have ever purchased that only came with 2 pegs!
I love the weight and the cost about $200 US is nice too!
I love how you can sit up in the tent and most other one man tents I have seen are too low for this.
I love how you can get away from insects if needed compared to a tarp.
I found the tent had excellent ventalation and condensation was low or zero most nights. Having the vents at the top of the tent is a feature most modern tents fall down in. Only one night had more condensation. There is a good gap between your sleeping pag and sides, more so than most 2 walled tents I have used,
I carry a sponge and it is easy to wipe the tent down before packing. Most 2 wall tents I have used had the inner heavy from mosture on some mornings and if you could not dry this out you carried the extra weight.
I had great weather on the walk so this was not a good test of the tent under windy conditions and rain.
I feel you need a sheltered camp for this tent as horizonal rain could carry under the sides and over the 4 inch floor sides. I feel I will add 4 extra tie down loops on the side bottoms 25% along for more windy locations and carry more pegs for the main pole sides etc.
I found you can tighen up the ends to leave a very tight tent if you had secure end pegs in.
I feel I could use 2 clear view blow up modified mummy pads and it could sleep 2 if you were close. Packs would have to be out of the sleeping area. About 400gms each for 2.
Since there is no inner, I feel you would be colder compared to a 2 wall tent.
I got 2 photos but lost my camera lead so that will have to wait before posting.
I had a little damage of about half an inch hole in the side mesh from an animal that needs a patch. I then stored all food in my dry bag in the hope of reducing food odor.
I feel this tent combines the best of tarp and tent systems and is excellent for sheltered sites.
I would love to hear from others how it goes in more difficult conditions. I think I would carry one of those super light emergency foil blanket for some extra side potection over my bag if I was stuck in emergency conditions in a high exposed area.
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