CraigVIC wrote:Sounds depressing. I also have a jacket that does the same thing, pockets fill up with water from leaking 'waterproof' zips. I was looking at an outdry ex but it also has exposed pocket zips (pu vislon). I wonder if any if these type zips work?
CraigVIC wrote:NNW - I get that but I'm not expecting it to be a dry suit. It seems reasonable to expect zips put on the front of a rain shell to be effectively waterproof in normal use.
crollsurf wrote:My jacket is due for a wash and DWR so I'm going to wash and treat and then do the scarecrow test as well. I want to find out what the story is with those front zips as both Orbs and Huntsman reckon they are portable swimming pools.
And Lamont, I think you're right about scrub and pants. It crossed my mind a while ago that a pair of rain pants I first used walking through knee high bush for hours probably deserve a DWR and a second chance.
crollsurf wrote:I'm actually old school and only ever used Scotch Guard in the past! I wont be using it on my precious so I'm happy to take advice on tech wash and DWR because the outside is not beading as it was.
Arc'teryx seem to push Graingers and recommend washing regularly, opposite to old school thought. I know DWR has been talked about ad infintum on this forum so need to educate myself first.
north-north-west wrote:CraigVIC wrote:NNW - I get that but I'm not expecting it to be a dry suit. It seems reasonable to expect zips put on the front of a rain shell to be effectively waterproof in normal use.
I never have, because that is simply not a property of a standard or even a water-resistant zip. The only way to have a waterproof pocket is to have storm flaps on it and fully sealed seams. This is one of the big issues with lightweight gear - effective function is lost. Those few extra grams of a decent storm flap on front closures and pockets are well worth it.
crollsurf wrote:Actually didn't take a photo of those side zips Lamont. The photos do show the main zip and the general state of the outer material before and after. Should have checked the main zip as well. Doh.
I don't want to test again because I could see the DWR had deteriorate a little where I hit it with the wand. It dried quickly so wasn't soaked but damp as in it had absorbed some water. So not only does wear and tear rubs off the DWR, water does as well.
danman wrote:this might be a silly question.. but is there anything that's going to keep you dry when walking through wet vegetation?
rain is one thing, but when you're walking through some scrub the volume of water you get hit with just seems too much. my allegedly good Mont hydronaut jacket gets pretty damn wet inside after anything more than pretty minor wet scrub. not sopping wet, it's definitely doing something, but still very damp.
danman wrote:this might be a silly question.. but is there anything that's going to keep you dry when walking through wet vegetation?
Hiking rain jackets don’t keep you dry in the rain; they keep you warm. If you don’t believe me, go hiking in the rain for 4+ hours and see if the clothing inside your jacket stays dry. Unless you’re hiking someplace with extremely low humidity, I bet the clothing under your jacket will get wet, if not soaked-through by sweat and condensation
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