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TIP: The online Bushwalk Inventory System can help bushwalkers with a variety of bushwalk planning tasks, including: Manage which items they take bushwalking so that they do not forget anything they might need, plan meals for their walks, and automatically compile food/fuel shopping lists (lists of consumables) required to make and cook the meals for each walk. It is particularly useful for planning for groups who share food or other items, but is also useful for individual walkers.
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Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Mon 12 Jul, 2010 2:49 pm

guess i was a bit keen with the cut n pasting huh :roll:

actually only recently got the carribee, so i hope it works out over time - i very nearly bought the exped WB 30 bag but went for the cheaper price in the end....

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Mon 12 Jul, 2010 3:49 pm

Up until last year, my only 'day packs' were:
  • my waterproof coat tied around my waist, with a few essentials stuffed into its pockets
  • my full size multi-day pack with a lot of empty space

I was given one of those tiny S2S day packs that packs up to about golf ball size, so now that's my third option.

I can't justify buying another expensive pack for day walking when I've already got enough options to do the job.

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Mon 12 Jul, 2010 4:09 pm

Liamy77 wrote:guess i was a bit keen with the cut n pasting huh :roll:

actually only recently got the carribee, so i hope it works out over time - i very nearly bought the exped WB 30 bag but went for the cheaper price in the end....


Haha sorry, whatever works, Im sure it's a very practical pack.....

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Mon 12 Jul, 2010 4:27 pm

Literage size differs from brand to brand, I don't know why, but it does.

I have two packs for day walks

Mountain Designs Ram's Head 30L. Tough as nails, accompanied me on many Tassie daywalks + overseas ventures. Sometimes a little squeezy, but at the moment I have only heavy duty WP pants and they don't bunch down.

Mountain Designs Boreas 50L. Hasn't been used all that much, is very light and comfortable but the size is a little large for a daywalk and a little small for most overnighters. May sell someday.

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Mon 12 Jul, 2010 11:53 pm

ollster wrote: ARRRRRGHHHH!!! They'll come undone, I'm tellin' ya!


Bit confused. Do you mean the belt buckle? Never had a problem with mine. The original one on the McMillan is capable of becoming undone if huge amount of over tightening happens which sort of gets my keg in the way so this unclips it. The compound tightening system on the Exact Fits Plus Harness means you can tighten the belt maybe a bit too much :shock: One Planet sent me different sort that is a bit more stream lined so not so inclined to be auto opened by my keg when learning forward.

Back on the Traverse, the best belt buckle design by far is the Berg one. This is slot and flap set-up and bullet proof. Pity it does not work with the exact fit system but the bees knees for any non compound system. They come in 38mm and 50mm versions. I brought a couple of each size from PP Launceston. Never got around to fitting it to the OP Traverse as the one shipped with it as mentioned never given a problem. Now rant mode could be engaged on another brand's buckle and the cost involved in fixing that but I fitted a Berg buckle instead and that worked a treat making it the best thing about that pack before it became landfill.

As for the zips, if any thing mine are a bit tight. Mine can be locked so might suggest a clip to be sure, to be sure.

As for the yellow cord on the back of the pack, well I believe OP fit it to keep those New Zealanders happy in their treeless alpine areas so they can hang their rain coats on the back of the pack and maybe crampons, but in scrub its life expectancy is measured in milliseconds for the taller timber like me that does not do the bush limbo well. Long disappeared from my McMillan and Traverse packs.

Cheers Brett

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Tue 13 Jul, 2010 9:02 am

Thanks for backing me up there Brett, I have not had any of those problems with mine either, been using it for well over a year now. The cord is gone on mine and it's a much nicer looking pack for it.

I reckon the Ollsters got himself a faulty one, or he isnt yet OP savvy :evil:

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Tue 13 Jul, 2010 4:29 pm

Brett wrote:
ollster wrote: ARRRRRGHHHH!!! They'll come undone, I'm tellin' ya!


Bit confused. Do you mean the belt buckle? Never had a problem with mine.


Nah, sorry. I mean the silver buckle thing that holds the lid down. Unless my pack is full I can't pull it tight enough to stop the bugger from getting knocked out of it's loop by trees/scrub etc.

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Tue 13 Jul, 2010 5:39 pm

ollster wrote:
Brett wrote:
ollster wrote: ARRRRRGHHHH!!! They'll come undone, I'm tellin' ya!


Bit confused. Do you mean the belt buckle? Never had a problem with mine.


Nah, sorry. I mean the silver buckle thing that holds the lid down. Unless my pack is full I can't pull it tight enough to stop the bugger from getting knocked out of it's loop by trees/scrub etc.


Hi Ollster

Now you have me stuffed. Silver buckle? Um? me think a photograph is in order. The only thing silver on mine is the zip and that can be locked by a tie of some description. The pack has two straps to hold the lid down but they a plastic, sorry nylon, or something else black that looks like black plastic thing, arh stuff it, I will leave it to the more pedantic to give the exact chemical formula so they can feel that they have added something to society for today :wink:

Cheers Brett

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Tue 13 Jul, 2010 5:49 pm

He means these Brett. Does yours not have it???
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Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Tue 13 Jul, 2010 5:50 pm

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Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Tue 13 Jul, 2010 6:19 pm

No? Mine is like the setup on the McMillan but in in miniture for the straps to hold the lid down. Um yours looks like the Grampin, not the Traverse, um? no looks like One Planet have changed their style :shock: when I checked out the online catalouge. My Traverse looks much more like the Vertex but without the colourful protective material as it is straight canvas (ok compound canvas, etc, etc, etc) :wink:

Um? I think I prefer my Traverse :D Ollster, PM One Planets Andrew King and it might be you have a dodgey silver metal thing.

Cheers Brett

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Tue 13 Jul, 2010 6:25 pm

Well now THATS interesting! I was a bit put off by this design at first, but grew to like it as it was unique and I hadnt seen it around much. However now there are 4 people I walk with that have one :lol:
I will be interested to have a look at yours this weekend Ollster to see if it is looser than mine.

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Tue 13 Jul, 2010 9:58 pm

ILUVSWTAS wrote:Well now THATS interesting! I was a bit put off by this design at first, but grew to like it as it was unique and I hadnt seen it around much. However now there are 4 people I walk with that have one :lol:
I will be interested to have a look at yours this weekend Ollster to see if it is looser than mine.


Thanks ILSWT... pics were useful. I should've just done that! I would imagine they're all stamped from the same design? I don't HATE it, but I think I may mod the pack and replace it with a more traditional clip. The silver thing just seems unnecessarily wanky for no benefit.

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Tue 13 Jul, 2010 10:07 pm

An emergency light reflector to get the attention of a passing chopper when you're half dead from exposure because of lying out all night with a broken leg?

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Tue 13 Jul, 2010 10:16 pm

Just shove a goon bag of air in the pack with everything else = pack full = problem solved :wink:

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Tue 13 Jul, 2010 10:51 pm

sthughes wrote:Just shove a goon bag of air in the pack with everything else = pack full = problem solved :wink:


Phew... I could've sworn you told me to take an empty alcohol container.

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Tue 13 Jul, 2010 11:21 pm

Lol, that right you're not one of the ultra light crowd, much better idea :D

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Wed 14 Jul, 2010 3:00 pm

I have a 25L Kathmandu daypack (Vision v2) that I find a bit on the small side for a full daywalk, so I sometimes end up taking my 75L rucksack, especially if I want to take a stove for hot drinks/lunch etc.

The OP Shadow looks interesting... potentially big enough for overnight solo trips. Hmm...

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Wed 14 Jul, 2010 11:51 pm

Singe wrote:I have a 25L Kathmandu daypack (Vision v2) that I find a bit on the small side for a full daywalk, so I sometimes end up taking my 75L rucksack, especially if I want to take a stove for hot drinks/lunch etc.

The OP Shadow looks interesting... potentially big enough for overnight solo trips. Hmm...


A great pack but misses out on drink storage capacity as no provision for drink bottle or bladder. Good option as weighs the same as my Op Traverse but bigger, 56 litres, and with better version of my harness. A member on this site uses ones for two to four night hikes to great effect.

Cheers Brett

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Thu 15 Jul, 2010 4:07 am

Brett wrote:
A great pack but misses out on drink storage capacity as no provision for drink bottle or bladder. Good option as weighs the same as my Op Traverse but bigger, 56 litres, and with better version of my harness. A member on this site uses ones for two to four night hikes to great effect.

Cheers Brett



I have a mungo which I intend to use for summer weekend/short trips.

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Thu 15 Jul, 2010 8:19 am

ILUVSWTAS wrote:
Brett wrote:
A great pack but misses out on drink storage capacity as no provision for drink bottle or bladder. Good option as weighs the same as my Op Traverse but bigger, 56 litres, and with better version of my harness. A member on this site uses ones for two to four night hikes to great effect.

Cheers Brett



I have a mungo which I intend to use for summer weekend/short trips.


The Mungo is a tempting little beast for such things as it would be tougher than the Shadow so more suited to the type of walking you do. By all accounts it is a very popular pack for school groups as it can stand misuse but also be fitted to the wide range of body styles.

Cheers Brett

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Thu 15 Jul, 2010 9:25 am

Brett wrote:
Singe wrote:I have a 25L Kathmandu daypack (Vision v2) that I find a bit on the small side for a full daywalk, so I sometimes end up taking my 75L rucksack, especially if I want to take a stove for hot drinks/lunch etc.

The OP Shadow looks interesting... potentially big enough for overnight solo trips. Hmm...


A great pack but misses out on drink storage capacity as no provision for drink bottle or bladder. Good option as weighs the same as my Op Traverse but bigger, 56 litres, and with better version of my harness. A member on this site uses ones for two to four night hikes to great effect.

Cheers Brett


Bzzzzzt - wrong answer Brett :P

Check out the new 2011 Shadow!

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Thu 15 Jul, 2010 9:36 am

was in checking out the new? OP range yesterday. Nice packs... I do like the tough canvas and clean lines....

Just a tip for OP...

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Far superior...Moo ha ha...

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Sat 17 Jul, 2010 8:11 am

Don't know what SINGE carries but my OP Shadow was big enough for a four day walk to the King William Range last October.

As to daypacs I have a 30L (Berghaus Remote) for summer and a 38L (OP Vertex) for winter - my camera gear takes up a lot of room and I was struggling to fit enough warm clothes in.

I reckon the 38L might be big enough for a summer overnighter given a perfect state wide forecast.

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Sat 17 Jul, 2010 1:48 pm

sthughes wrote:
Brett wrote:
Singe wrote:I have a 25L Kathmandu daypack (Vision v2) that I find a bit on the small side for a full daywalk, so I sometimes end up taking my 75L rucksack, especially if I want to take a stove for hot drinks/lunch etc.

The OP Shadow looks interesting... potentially big enough for overnight solo trips. Hmm...


A great pack but misses out on drink storage capacity as no provision for drink bottle or bladder. Good option as weighs the same as my Op Traverse but bigger, 56 litres, and with better version of my harness. A member on this site uses ones for two to four night hikes to great effect.

Cheers Brett


Bzzzzzt - wrong answer Brett :P

Check out the new 2011 Shadow!


And there are times like this that I do not mind been proven wrong, or more accurately a little out of date :D :D :D :D :lol:

Cheers Brett

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Mon 19 Jul, 2010 5:12 pm

MJD wrote:Don't know what SINGE carries but my OP Shadow was big enough for a four day walk to the King William Range last October.

As to daypacs I have a 30L (Berghaus Remote) for summer and a 38L (OP Vertex) for winter - my camera gear takes up a lot of room and I was struggling to fit enough warm clothes in.

I reckon the 38L might be big enough for a summer overnighter given a perfect state wide forecast.

Obviously too much :lol:

Unfortunately at the moment my overnight/solo kit is essentially the same as my two-person/multi-day kit.

Maybe I should go for the Umbra to force myself to pack a bit ligher ;)

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Mon 19 Jul, 2010 6:55 pm

Nuts wrote:was in checking out the new? OP range yesterday. Nice packs... I do like the tough canvas and clean lines....

Just a tip for OP...

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Far superior...Moo ha ha...


There's some swash buckling going on in this thread :lol:

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Mon 19 Jul, 2010 7:11 pm

this is my DAYpack - i can add a camelback or shoulderstraps or backpack to this depending on what i want/ weight... but this has everything in it for 2 days (would add a shelter in other than the tarp and hammock in it ATM)

The water bottle also has a hex stove, fuel, lighter, spoon/canopener, and 2 600mL aluminium cups.
The other bag has the rest...
Cost me about $65 all up plus $20 for the padded shoulder straps (not shown) for when it's heavier...
I still prefer this to my other bags as i can thread the parts of this into the harness of my larger pack for longer stretches... keeps the gear really accessible, and cheap n strong.
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Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Wed 21 Jul, 2010 11:27 pm

I have a Tatonka Granite which is a very sturdy daypack of about 20litres. It's too small for me to use for weekend trips but it has taken a lot of gear on day trips. The side straps are a bit of bad design because when they are clipped closed, I can't undo the zips. I just use my weekend pack for everything and carry a sling pack for my camera gear (but on my FRONT)

Re: What capacity is your daypack?

Tue 03 Aug, 2010 12:05 am

Regarding
OP Traverse silver buckle disconnecting when not under load.
Sorry, it's a bit frustrating. We have shortened the loop which in turn increases the resistance and stops the buckle unitentially coming adrift when loose. More than happy to modify any older models out there like Ollsters, just return your pack to the store from whom you purchased and we will arrange to have it sent back or forward to the factory.
I am also developing a similar buckle with a gate and would be happy to send a prototype as I would be most interested in any feed back. (e-mail [email protected])

We made this buckle for several specific applications: the main one is for attaching front pockets/daypacks to the compression straps eliminating zips and to replace the main side release buckles on industrial packs that live in Antarctica where plastic buckles become brittle over time. The buckle can also be used for in field repairs as no sewing is required to replace an existing buckle.
Thanks for the feedback.
Cheers
Andrew
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