Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

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So, which one do you like?

Poll ended at Wed 25 Nov, 2009 8:44 am

01
15
42%
02
3
8%
03
1
3%
04
0
No votes
05
2
6%
06
1
3%
07
0
No votes
08
0
No votes
09
5
14%
10
0
No votes
11
0
No votes
12
1
3%
13
8
22%
 
Total votes : 36

Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby tasadam » Wed 04 Nov, 2009 8:44 am

Post Processing Challenge 1 - Voting.

It's time to vote.
Which one do you like the end result of most?

Important -

Firstly, once you vote you cannot change it, so select carefully...

Each of the images displayed here are resized in Photoshop to 800 pixels and quality level 5, to reduce file size.
The images are linked to the full size file as provided by the entrant, ranging in file size anywhere up to 5.7Mb per file.
I invite you to have a close look at each image before voting - there is often much more to see in the full size image than what you can see with the resized files.

Right click - save target as, or open in new tab or window and zoom in.

Feel free to add comments on what you like or don't like, and why.

The voting period has been set at 21 days because I will be away walking so I won't be able to add who did what and how until I get back in early December.
Sorry 'bout that!!! :P

OK, here are the resized images, linked to the full size image.

01
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02
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03
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04
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05
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06
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07
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08
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09
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10
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11
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12
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13
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This one is done by someone as a bit of fun rather than a serious entry...
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby MJD » Wed 04 Nov, 2009 9:20 am

Interesting collection. Looks like a few of us were on the same track but the first one seems nicely balanced even ignoring the border, which is a nice touch - good thinking whoever did that.

Didn't know there were sharks in those tarns... note to self: take more care when swimming.
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Wed 04 Nov, 2009 9:34 am

Have to be careful of that green guy lurking behind the rocks too!
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby Nick S » Wed 04 Nov, 2009 4:11 pm

hmm I had to choose between #2 and #9.
Interesting that there is a cloud in the top right corner in #9, but not in the other. creative license i guess
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby stoogest » Wed 04 Nov, 2009 5:31 pm

lol...I can't work out which one is mine...!!
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby Nick S » Wed 04 Nov, 2009 6:32 pm

not the purple one then stoogest? :D gives such a depressing feel to the place..
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby Steve » Wed 04 Nov, 2009 6:37 pm

Was pretty close call for me between 01 and 09, though 01 ended up coming out on top. 02 was close behind in 3rd followed by 08, 04, 06 then 05.
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby alliecat » Wed 04 Nov, 2009 7:36 pm

It's really interesting noting my initial reaction to each of them, and how the order they appear in affects those reactions.

FWIW, here are my initial thoughts.
01. Polished and professional. Quite bright; good detail in the snowy mountains and clouds. Nice crop.
02. Nice natural looking image. Suffers by comparison to the brightness of 01.
03. I don't remember eating any mushrooms...
04. Nice natural colours and brightness; a bit blurry (not sharpened?) perhaps.
05. Nice and natural - good balance of brightness, saturation, and contrast
06. Somewhere between 04 and 05; slightly different colour balance
07. Leaps out because of the brightness and saturation, but retains good detail in the mountains and clouds. I'd call this the "happy" version.
08. Another nice natural rendering.
09. Nice natural rendering again; slightly warmer colours than 08?
10. Gotta love those filters and bump maps...
11. Good detail in the mountains; not sure about the crop; colours look a bit "odd"? Sharpness and contrast look okay.
12. Nice natural rendering again; maybe loses a bit of mountain detail and needs a sharpen.
13. Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Fhtagn! (Google it...)

In the end I had to give it to No 5, but that is a bit arbitrary cos there were many very close, well done images.

Very interesting challenge Adam! Maybe we can make this a bi-monthly or quarterly thing for a while and see how it goes?

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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby stoogest » Wed 04 Nov, 2009 8:09 pm

I went for 5 as well due to it's balance in light and natural tones.
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby walkinTas » Wed 04 Nov, 2009 8:22 pm

Adam, the link to 5 isn't working.

Congratulations to all who entered. My first impressions are as follows:

There are four distinctive areas in the photo that were a challenge.
    1. The detail in the water.
    2. The bank of the tarn, with the detail of the shrubs and the reflection.
    3. The Mountains.
    4. The Sky.

I think #1 and #2 both did well with the water. #2 is just a bit dark on my screen, but the detail is there. There is good detail in #9 as well.

I think #9 did a very good job keeping the natural colours of the shrubs on the tarn bank. #8, #12, #6 and #2 are all good efforts. Others might prefer the slightly more saturated colours.

Quite a few have good detail in the mountain. My picks here would probably be #13, #9, #2, #12 and #1, but not in any particular order.

There were some strange results with the sky, but I think I like #2 and #1 the best, though I suspect #1 is embellished a little.

The artistic effect in #10 is obvious, but you have to open #4 to full size to appreciate the artistic effect that has been added there.

Great work everyone with some very interesting results.
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby Clownfish » Wed 04 Nov, 2009 9:25 pm

Glad to see someone else recognised Cthulhu lurking back there! Perhaps some sort of "spotto" challenge for the added extras might in order?
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby tasadam » Thu 05 Nov, 2009 7:55 am

walkinTas wrote:Adam, the link to 5 isn't working.

Fixed. For some reason the linked file ended in .JPG instead of .jpg, so rather than edit the post, I just changed the name of the file to suit the link.
My bad for not testing every link, though I did check all the files uploaded and they were the correct size before posting...

Not so good that it hasn't been picked up until now, there is a lot more to be seen in each image in the larger version. I wouldn't think judging based on the resized (and compressed) file shown here would be giving it justice.

LOL re the mushies comment.

People are actually VOTING for the one with the shark ??
I was going to exclude that one from the poll as it was only put there for comedy as the provider advised me.
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby Son of a Beach » Thu 05 Nov, 2009 8:23 am

I just noticed the pulp mill (or whatever it is) in number 13. I didn't see that the first few times I looked.

Is that the eye of Sauron in the water?
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby Ent » Thu 05 Nov, 2009 2:00 pm

Great work all. Um? Does show that those with access to photo editing software and the skill to use it do have an advantage over those that do not. Interesting that imagine number one uses cropping to great effect to centre the eye on the water and then follows it up with great clarification of the water and implements the almost mandatory wilderness "cliché" of the boarder with only a slight compromise of the sky. Number 9 appears the most "natural". Despite the playfulness of number 13 I would not dismiss it as it is not a bad photo imagine. Do love the reflected Wally and no doubt with further study things such as the Eye in the water will become evident.

Though I prefer 9 as a nicely cleaned up photograph I will go for number 1 as it shows that cropping is still a very powerful tool and one that is readily available to people regardless of their camera or software and full credit to the "manipulator" for seizing on an element to highlight and then going for it.

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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby tasadam » Thu 05 Nov, 2009 4:16 pm

stoogest wrote:lol...I can't work out which one is mine...!!

Then unless you've been drinking, I can help you narrow it down a bit by safely assuming it isn't 1, 3, 10 or 13... :wink:
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby stoogest » Thu 05 Nov, 2009 6:59 pm

That's a pretty safe bet!
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby Clownfish » Thu 05 Nov, 2009 9:54 pm

Son of a Beach wrote:I just noticed the pulp mill (or whatever it is) in number 13. I didn't see that the first few times I looked.
Is that the eye of Sauron in the water?


It is indeed the Pulp Mill - bit of Tasmanian humour there. Come to think of it, I should have added a tourist road in the distance, with a little Sturgo driving along on it ... :wink:

And that is indeed the Eye of Sauron.

Also (as correctly spotted) Cthulhu, the X-Files flying saucer, Wally, Bruce the Shark and a Alan Lee faerie.

But, please people, as flattering as it is, stop voting for it: it was a joke! :mrgreen:
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Fri 06 Nov, 2009 3:23 am

It's a process competition!
Thats a good example of photo processing! Some obvious thought was put into it, and yes it's quite a laugh! Therefore it deserves votes!
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby tasadam » Sun 06 Dec, 2009 6:56 am

Time to reveal who did what... And what they did.
Well, somewhat overdue, sorry 'bout that. I went walking for a couple of weeks, now I have just finished a very busy 6 days at work.

I hope everyone doesn't mind, I pretty much copied and pasted the comments and info straight from the emails.

Congratulations to Samh!

01 - samh
So here is my edited image, I'm a bit of a beginner, and I haven't spent a lot of time on doing that one.
What have I done:
First adjust whitebalance and contrast than convert to TIFF Next I multiplied the image to get tow layers with the top layer blending mode "color"
Next create a new layer between the two others and paste in it the red channel switch blending mode to "screen" I think, than mask the layer and only select the water area in the front of the image, play around with the curve of that layer to make it look a bit more natural.
Than create a colour balance layer and in the mask select only the sky, play around until your happy merge all layers Adjust curve and saturation of the image like you want it.
Extend the canvas at the top of the image and draw a bit more sky and a cloud, than crop the image sharpen it, frame it and you'r done.


02 - clownfish (1)
First one is a fairly straightforward image enhancement. Photoshop, masking out different areas of the image and applying levels, replacement colours, etc. Some use of the healing brush and a gradient on the sky.

03 - mickeymoo
Here is my quick and dirty go at doing something with the photo for the challenge, its not the best but lukily it will only be viewed at a small size!! It will certainly be interesting to see what everyone else comes up with.

OK details:

Adobe Photoshop CS3

1. process in RAW converter, adjusting exposure, fill light, blacks, cotrast, saturation, tone curve and CA.
2. open as tiff in photoshop
3. using magnetic lasso and magic wand select the sky and then adjust colour channels to get the pink sky.
4. using same as above select the blue areas of the water and apply a deep red filter
5. adjust curves
6. dodging and burning
7. remove noise
8. high pass sharpen
9. crop
10. resize to 800 px
11. convert to 8bit and save as jpeg

I think that was pretty much it.

04 - Johnw
My entry is attached, nothing too outrageous. I used UFRAW to do much of the post-processing. Being new at editing RAW images, and using unfamiliar tools, it wasn't a very scientific approach. I really just played around to get something that pleased me to look at, while trying to understand the software. Not that there was anything wrong with the original image in the first place. In fact in seems a bit like sacrilege to muck around with it. I simply tried to adjust some elements of the shot, such as seeing whether I could enhance the clarity of the water and submerged rocks in the tarn.
Anyway that's a bit long-winded, so here's what I did:

Open image in UFRAW:

1. Set to Auto adjust exposure

2. Set to Auto White Balance

3. Increase Colour Saturation to 1.5

4. Set clip highlights for positive EV to "soft film like"

5. Adjust exposure compensation in EV to 0.7

6. Set Output ICC profile to sRGB

7. Send the adjusted RAW image to the GIMP

In the GIMP:

1. Save as a JPEG file

2. Apply "Oilify" filter in the GIMP to simulate a subtle oil painting effect (Mask size = 8, Exponent Value = 8)

3. Apply Canvas filter (Direction = Top Right, Depth = 2)

That's it.

05 - straight from camera as basic jpg, no editing

06 - MJD
Just had a quick play using Adobe Lightroom

Cropped
Exposure -.20
Fill light +10
Brightness -25
Contrast +30
Clarity +33

Tried playing around a lot more but had trouble with the sky and/or water surface looking flat or odd.

07 - photohiker
I opened the NEF in Photomatix and tinkered with all the controls. (screencap below) Cropped in Photoshop, nothing else.
PhotomatixSettings-photohiker.JPG


08 - tasadam
In RAW

basic - auto

tone curve
lights -18
darks -11
shadows +15

lens corrections -
zoom 400%
work on dead tree in sky on left and right vertical cliff of Paddys Nut on right.
fix red/cyan fringe -11

Straightening tool, zoom 100% and line most right dead branch on left side with its reflection.

Detail - Sharpening, up to 50

Fit in view

HSL/Grayscale
Saturation Oranges +30, Yellows +10
Luminance Blues -10, Oranges -10


Basic - Clarity +15, Vibrance +7, Brightness +44, Contrast +55
Exposure +0.7


Open image


Check image rotation correct by zooming 1600% and looking at cliff edge on right side of Paddys Nut.

Zoom 100%
Clone stamp tool, took out dust bunny from right side, took out many floaties from water that look like dust spots.

Tools - Sharpen - Unsharp Mask
Zoom 100% on white lichen on big rock in centre.
Adjust amount 130%, radius 0.3 pixels
Mode - 8 bit (darn it already was, it should have been in 16 bit for all that, I must have changed something).
File - save as JPG maximum resolution.

09 - Stoogest
I use Lightroom 2 for all pp except noise reduction for which I used Noise Ninja.

Techniques used include:

Adjustments to white balance (added a tad more warmth);

Used the 'recovery' tool to bring back some of the blue in the sky and mountain detail.

Upped the contrast to get a bit of 'pop' (I hate that term...)

Increased the clarity to get better definition, particularly in the background mountain.

Slightly adjusted the levels. In particular the 'highlights' were raised to make the snow brighter.

Added a tiny bit of vibrance to the whole image.

Upped the saturation of the green and red channels.

Slightly tweaked the blue channel up a tad.

Sharpened to 98%.

Auto noise reduction in NN.

10 - bluewombat
I used UF Raw to handle the image initially, then exported it to GIMP. From there it through an "embossing" filter and finally I added a lighting effect called supernova.

11 - alliecat
Well, here's my stab at post post-processing that photo of yours. Hopefully I haven't butchered it too much :)

It's been an interesting experience learning to use UFRaw and the GIMP. There's obviously a *lot* of scope there to produce a wide range of final results from the initial RAW data. Definitely something I'm going to have to look into more.

Anyway, here's the steps used to produce the attached jpg (I think! I may have forgotten something...)

In UFRaw:
- applied camera's white balance
- adjusted the level curve to try and bring out the most detail, especially in the snowy mountain bits

In the GIMP:
- applied the "contrast mask" technique from gimpguru.org to bring out the details in the contrasty areas
- applied a "GND" mask to darken the sky and bring out the clouds
- applied the sharpen tool (I tried the sharpen mask from gimpguru but it didn't look right to me...)
- cropped the image to the final composition
- increased the saturation slightly to bring out the colours more

After looking at different versions of the same image for so long it starts to become difficult to tell what looks "better". So I saved a bunch of different attempts, and came back to them after a few days and just tried to pick the one that looked "best", then I looked up my notes to see how I had produced that final image.

It was a fun challenge. I'll be really interested to see what others come up with.


12 - cameraposer
I don't spend enough time on my own blooming photos, so I only gave it the quick and dirty.

Processing was done in CS3- mostly in raw.

Processing steps (best I can remember)

1) Cropped out some foreground to bring the most interesting part of the foreground into the focus of that part of the scene

2) Adjusted the following in RAW Converter
-Recovery +24
-Fill light +5
-Blacks +10
-Brightness +49 (a small adjustment down)
-Contrast +33
-Clarity +14
-Vibrance +14
-Saturation +8

Further tinkering in CS Raw Converter

-Highlights -3 (trying to give the sky some depth)
-Lights +13
-Darks 0
-Shadows -2

Sharpening in CS3 Raw Converter

-Amount 82
-Radius 0.8

Camera Calibration in CS3 Raw Converter

-Green Primary Hue +12
-Blue Saturation +31 (still trying to give some depth to the sky without it looking fake)

OPEN into CS3

-Adjust midtone contrast +5


13 - clownfish (2)
Second one … well, I had a bit of fun. Photoshop again. What else is a graphic designer to do? :)
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Re: Post Process Challenge 1 - Voting

Postby stoogest » Mon 07 Dec, 2009 10:02 pm

HIlarious! I thought mine was No. 5, but turns out it was No. 9. Not sure what that says...

Congrats to the winner though!
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