Joynz wrote:Not sure what you mean by ‘use clean dirt’?
"Soil" is a better word - it should contain no animal waste, no stones and no bits of twig (which can be a challenge depending where you are)
Joynz wrote:Not sure what you mean by ‘use clean dirt’?
Joynz wrote:Not sure what you mean by ‘use clean dirt’?
timh wrote:Important question I can't find an answer for - if it's a fire ban can I use my alcohol stove? Will need to plan cold soak/no cook capable meals if not.
Joynz wrote:About soap, the parks Tasmania website at https://parks.tas.gov.au/explore-our-pa ... e-no-trace says:
‘Wash up using hot water, preferably without soap or detergent. Strain and scatter washing up water 50 metres away from water sources ’.
wildwanderer wrote:http://www.fire.tas.gov.au/Show?pageId=colFireBan
wildwanderer wrote:timh wrote:Important question I can't find an answer for - if it's a fire ban can I use my alcohol stove? Will need to plan cold soak/no cook capable meals if not.
http://www.fire.tas.gov.au/Show?pageId=colFireBan
My interpretation would be no alcohol stoves on fire ban days.
You may want to claify with the tas fire Dept re use in huts
Orion wrote:Joynz wrote:About soap, the parks Tasmania website at https://parks.tas.gov.au/explore-our-pa ... e-no-trace says:
‘Wash up using hot water, preferably without soap or detergent. Strain and scatter washing up water 50 metres away from water sources ’.
Hot water sounds pretty good. But it isn't usually available. I mean, I can heat up some water in my stove/pot but are most people likely to do that every time they use the loo? I know that I don't get my stove out every time I wash up.
So what are the alternatives?
1. soap and cold water
2. Hand sanitizer (ethanol)
3. cold water rub
4. rely upon immune system
What's the best choice, balancing hygiene and environmental concern?
It's worth noting the next sentence in the Parks TAS webpage:
"Strain and scatter washing up water 50 metres away from water sources "
At a hut there is a drain that is specifically designed for all the nastiness of high density human activity. I don't know the specifics of how this effluent is managed, pretty much like I don't know how my garbage or recycle material is dealt with. But I presume that a certain, limited, amount of nastiness is acceptable. It's part of the trade-off between leaving the wilderness untouched and actually touching it. And my guess is that it's effectively more than "50 meters away from water sources".
In non-hut situations the issue is one of trading viruses (mainly) between friends. I find that a much less serious concern. So much so that I employ essentially no countermeasures other than simply rubbing the dirt off my hands with cold water.
timh wrote:My Dexshell waterproof socks are only 124gm and I'll probably be carrying them anyway - what about slipping them on then wearing my trail runners to walk around outside? And just wear my dry sleep socks in the huts when cooking/hanging out?
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